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#253224 - 08/26/04 02:21 PM Owner-Cutting Points
Sol Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 12/19/03
Posts: 7477
Loc: Poulsbo
I've been using the Owner brand cutting point hooks for a couple of months now and I am very impressed. They are the sharpest hook I have come across. In addition to sharpness, they cut through flesh on entry as opposed to pushing it aside as conical points do. If you haven't already tried them, give them a shot. You'll be pleased.

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#253225 - 08/26/04 04:01 PM Re: Owner-Cutting Points
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
I've always been a diehard Gammy guy, but I used the Owners for the first time this spring, and I was very impressed.

I'll try them out this fall, when I'll have lots of fish to catch and can give them a more head to head comparison with Gammys...I have a feeling they'll do well.

Fish on...

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#253226 - 08/26/04 04:05 PM Re: Owner-Cutting Points
Sky-Guy Offline
The Tide changed

Registered: 08/31/00
Posts: 7083
Loc: Everett
Gammy, Owners, both good hooks IMO.

What I want to know is, where is the best deal for buying them in bulk? I hate buying 6 at a time, I want a good deal on 100, or more of my favorite sizes.
Please don't say eBay, I scour that place already.
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#253227 - 08/26/04 04:06 PM Re: Owner-Cutting Points
stlhead Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 6732
"cut through the flesh"....great now they'll ban Owner hooks.... \:\)

In this day and age we need to be using dull point less hooks to protect the fish.
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#253228 - 08/26/04 04:15 PM Re: Owner-Cutting Points
seastrike Offline
Hey Man....It's cool...

Registered: 08/18/02
Posts: 4242
Loc: seattle
GI Joes sells them in bulk. I noticed them at the Northgate store a few weeks ago.

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#253229 - 08/26/04 04:17 PM Re: Owner-Cutting Points
Sol Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 12/19/03
Posts: 7477
Loc: Poulsbo
Sky-Guy, I've been buying mine in qty's of 40 at Sportsmans Warehouse for $30.

I'm glad my wife doesn't read this forum.

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#253230 - 08/26/04 04:38 PM Re: Owner-Cutting Points
Sky-Guy Offline
The Tide changed

Registered: 08/31/00
Posts: 7083
Loc: Everett
Sol, I can't swallow paying that much for hooks. There has to be a cheaper source.

Seastrike, I have seen them at those stores too, But thatr isnt a good deal. They want 30-40 $$ for hooks, way too much IMO.

Just seeing if anyone here knows of a really, really good deal.
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#253231 - 08/26/04 05:01 PM Re: Owner-Cutting Points
Gary Johnson Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 07/08/04
Posts: 203
Loc: Fall City, WA
Hey Sky,

I did a search on google and came up with this.... http://www.wholesalers-direct.com/6510025.html

Looks like you can get 40 for $19.95. I also found the same price at BassPro Shops.

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#253232 - 08/26/04 05:06 PM Re: Owner-Cutting Points
troller Offline
Spawner

Registered: 07/11/02
Posts: 608
Loc: Renton , WA
I dont remeber the price but sportco sells owners in bulk. I have been buying the smaller packs and need to get somemore. I only use them for fishing in the salt so I purchase the stainless ones. I stay away from gammies The very first one I used many years ago snapped off at the eye. I had a nice summer run with an attitude on the end of the line and then snap. I thought the line broke but when I reeled up the know held but hook broke. I have just never really been a fan since then. I have used them a couple of times after that and no problems.

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#253233 - 08/26/04 09:41 PM Re: Owner-Cutting Points
Current Drifter Offline
Smolt

Registered: 08/21/99
Posts: 85
Loc: Seattle, WA King
I've also done some searching for the Owner hooks. The best I've found is:
http://www.outdoor-arena.com/shop/item.asp?affillink=FROOG22045003&itemid=9351949

$15.81/40 pack which is better than wholesalers-direct.com
$19.78 - also, if you buy >$200 shipping is free. They actually gave me free shipping for an order of about $100.

Contact them at
admin@outdoor-arena.com

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#253234 - 08/26/04 11:36 PM Re: Owner-Cutting Points
eyeFISH Offline
Ornamental Rice Bowl

Registered: 11/24/03
Posts: 12618
As a guy who deals with surgical needles on a regular basis, I can tell you that a surgeon would almost never suture tissue with anything other than a cutting point, unless the goal is to ensure that the suture tract is watertight ( vascular micro-surgery, glaucoma micro-surgery). A cutting needle penetrates tissue with incredible ease compared to a conical tapered needle.... it's like night and day.

The same goes for fishing hooks.... cutting points just penetrate better. That said, I have not converted to Owner hooks because of what others have already alluded to..... exorbitant prices for small quantities. Besides, I have done well with Gamakatsu's all these years. Happy to see there is bulk pricing available on the Owners.. Bad news is my timing is way off.... just placed an order for bulk Gamakatsu's before reading this post. Oh well, next time around.
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#253235 - 08/27/04 12:58 AM Re: Owner-Cutting Points
Big Bad Voodoo Daddy Offline
Spawner

Registered: 10/15/01
Posts: 888
Loc: Enumclaw
I didn't even search... But I buy all my gammies off that cheapest source possible... EBAY. Try it out.

Curtis

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#253236 - 08/27/04 01:41 AM Re: Owner-Cutting Points
stlhdr1 Offline
BUCK NASTY!!

Registered: 01/26/00
Posts: 6312
Loc: Vancouver, WA
They are second to nothing I've found.. Another hook that is sharp as heck but not as sharp as Owner is the Matzuo.. Now those have a good barb to compared to most hooks.
Keith
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#253237 - 08/27/04 06:00 PM Re: Owner-Cutting Points
Dave D Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 10/04/01
Posts: 3563
Loc: Gold Bar
I prefer the Owners for Salmon and the Gami's for Steelhead. The Owners are a stronger hook.
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#253238 - 08/29/04 10:01 PM Re: Owner-Cutting Points
fuzzy Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 08/24/04
Posts: 101
Loc: port orchard
"Sky-Guy, I've been buying mine in qty's of 40 at Sportsmans Warehouse for $30. [Eek!]

I'm glad my wife doesn't read this forum."


sportsman's wharehouse in silverdale sells owner part #5311-131 3/0 ssw quantity 40 for $13.99
or atleast today they did:)
just had to try em after all the praise they get but i still like the vmc's cause i'm/they're cheap
kinda weird that i didn't see any barbless in the sizes i like though
guess i'll just have to keep pinching

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#253239 - 08/30/04 12:33 AM Re: Owner-Cutting Points
DL Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 06/08/03
Posts: 302
Loc: Woodiville
Does Owner make a barbless cutting point hook yet?

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#253240 - 08/30/04 01:29 AM Re: Owner-Cutting Points
mOOSekNUCKLe Offline
Alevin

Registered: 08/21/04
Posts: 11
Loc: Brown's Point,WA
I use Auburn sports and Marine "brand" $6.99 for 25 hooks , they resemble gamy's quite a bit, I actually cant tell a difference between them, I dont use them again after I get a fish on them , so I cant afford to use gamy's.
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#253241 - 09/02/04 12:20 AM Re: Owner-Cutting Points
Kinetic Kwik Offline
Spawner

Registered: 03/29/02
Posts: 319
Loc: sum x wet,sum x dry WA 4 Life
Ya all are gett'n ripped. Joes and Fishermans in the PDX area have them for 13.99 to 14.99 for 40. Size 4/0 and up. Smaller sizes are cheaper by a buck or more.

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#253242 - 09/02/04 12:35 AM Re: Owner-Cutting Points
eyeFISH Offline
Ornamental Rice Bowl

Registered: 11/24/03
Posts: 12618
I believe all of the guys quoting the very low prices are talking about Owner needle point hooks (which are very similar to the Gamakatsu) not the cutting point hooks ... huge difference.

Can you guys check again?
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#253243 - 09/02/04 01:57 AM Re: Owner-Cutting Points
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Registered: 02/02/04
Posts: 2237
Loc: N of Seattle
Ted's in Lynnwood has the cutting point packs.
43ea 2/0 for $ 17.99
40ea 3/0 for $ 17.99
34ea 4/0 for $ 17.99
29ea 5/0 for you guessed it $ 17.99
They have others but thats what I happen to have in front of me now and all I will be useing for the next 6 weeks. Its like the differance between a chisel point and bladed broadhead for you archery guys and they are sticky sharp.
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