I was looking at getting a new doggin rod!!
I used to have Loomis 1141'S but they have been stolen out of my truck!! What model do you guy like?? Joe or Parker let me here you thoughts!!

Lamiglas G1312, 10 1/2 ft, 3/4-2 1/2 once, 10-20 line.

by doggin did u mean chums or boodogging? i though u means dogin as in chums.

No more over the counter replacements for Allstars from Sportco. If you break a rod, which happens a lot with Allstars, you have to ship it to the Factory yourself. I wouldn't have bought any Allstars from Sportco if it weren't for the OTC replacement policy.

You might want to check out this old thread...seems All Star Rods got sold to Shakespeare....

http://www.piscatorialpursuits.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=018148#000000

Likely the reason for the change on the OTC return policy. I've got one (9'6" 8-12#) that is my wife's rod. She loves it, but the action is a bit slow for me. I wouldn't buy another without the OTC return policy, after hearing of so many of them breaking.

Mike

Just my .02

Go with another brand

Go big ($$$$) or go home.

I'm on the pro staff and I was told by shakes' they discontinued the OTC because of the abuse of people replaceing rods when they just wanted new ones, Texas was the worst, anyway, they are still a good rod , and it may be a pain in a#* but they will honor the warranty as spelled out . good luck!

All Stars might be all right in the heavier action blanks but I would stay away from their light action rods like the 1141's.

Beezer

Beezer,
just curious how many have you owned? I've got 25 of them, most of them 1082's, 1083's 1141's 1085's and 962's. In the 3 years I've owned them I've broke 4 of them, 2 on hooksets, 2 my own fault, one got wrapped around the motor while I was turning, the other I was leading a 25# king with a 1083 and, yep you guessed it, had my hand up above the cork about a foot. Are they as good as a gl3? nope. Better than a gl2? yep. Want better than a gl3, try one of the new Titanium's when they hit the market, less money.

Fishhead5

Sorry FH5, but I DEFINITELY disagree with the "better than a GL2" statement.

I bought my first Allstar a few years ago on recommendations from this board (an 1143c) at Ted's in Lynnwood. It felt pretty good and the price and (at that time) OTC warranty seemed like a good deal. Let's just say that after breaking 3 in a row all within a week or 2 of getting them, I lost all faith in using them.

Next I bought an 1141s and same story, Snapped at the ferrule... JUST CASTING! Another replacement on that one broke within 2 weeks FISHING FOR SHAD!

Ted's stopped the OTC 'cause so many were being brought back snapped in half. Now it seems that every retail outlet is doing the same.

I own a good selection of GL2's, GL3's and Lami Certified Pro's. The Allstar Elite series IMHO, IS NOT the same caliber rod. As a side note, I've never broken any of my Loomis' or Lami's. I DO know how fragile a light action graphite rod can be and I DON'T abuse them.

I'm glad that you've had pretty good luck with your Allstars, I was hoping that they would work out the same for me, but no dice.


OK parker... time to put your 2 cents in and dispute everything I just said.

This about says it all....

They tried to keep these rods light but they did this at the expense of strength at the feral.

I've got an AllStar 1264, which is a pretty heavy rod, that I use for floats, chums, and chinook.

It's held up just great for me...my only complaint is that the top three inches of it wasn't strong enough to withstand being closed in the car door .

Other than that, it's cool. I haven't used lighter ones much...I don't own any, but I've casted a few. They feel nice, and they are pretty darn affordable, but I can't speak to the durability.

Fish on...

Todd

My AllStar busted in two making a cast. I took it back and got a credit for a Lamiglas. Much happier now.

Retailers now should have warranty cards to hand out to allstar purchasers/owners explaining the change in warranty policy.

Without the OTC exchange policy...

...Allstar is

I like my 1263C and I caught three steelhead on it today, yes, 11/11/04. It is my primary float rod for either jigs or eggs under a float (today's weapon of choice).

I have taken a number of kings on it, and a 27# steelhead. There is not a lot of backbone to this rod, but then again, it is only rated 4-10#. Good touch and I like the length.

I've seen folks break a perfectly good Loomis on a silver at Sekiu for no reason at all. Just broke. I have broken one rod in my life while fishing, it was an eagle claw 15-25# 8.5' rod that got snagged on a rock at Duncan rock with braid.

I still have a Kunan classic 96 that I have fished since 1988. Who knows how many fish I've caught on that rod? Just take care of your equipment and don't abuse it. (I caught 2 chum on this rod today.)

There are some defects with some rods, on a case by case basis, but honestly, I think most rod breakage occurs due to user error.

Fishhead5, I've only bought one Allstar 1141, as a gift for another person, and it blew up the first day he had it while casting. I also know of at least three other similar cases on 1141s. Can't say that about any other rod manufacturer. I've seen Todd land 40# chinook with his Allstar 1264 in heavy water and it performed fine. So again, I'd recommend staying away from the lighter action Allstar blanks.

Beezer

I recommend Rainshadow, GLoomis, or Lamiglas.

Hey Beezer, Great looking avatar!
I love the stripe on your boat!

I'm with you Andy, but most people tend to get a little defensive when you say that. One of the problems that I've found is that people don't get the rods put together tight, that will cause them to snap above the ferrul. I've broke a couple of loomis's and had a ton of the ceramics pop out of the eyes, so many that I've gotten rid of them. Rainshadow makes a good rod, I know some people that fish them and love them. I've tried a couple of their rods and like the feel of them. I can't believe how calm this thread has stayed, But I'll bet Beezer likes Fords too.

Fishhead5

I built a halibut rod from an Allstar blank for a good friend of mine who used to live in Alaska. He chose to match it with a Calcutta reel. What a combo! He caught a ton of butts with it over a span of 5 years before he moved back to WA. I even got to fish with it a few times, hooking into a number of 100+ pound butts. The rod made playing these monsters a whole lot 'o fun. I will be looking to build my own halibut rod with an Allstar blank.