Originally posted by bobert:
more liberal blather. A healthy clean river cannot exist in and around the 4 million mass of humanity and thier concrete jungle, that is called western washington. The truth is without the hatcheries we wouldn't have fish. Wild fish need wild rivers in a wild land. It won't happen here unless you get rid of the humanity. That's not going to happen.
Thanks for that uplifting thoughtful commentary... NOT!
You say, "The truth is without the hatcheries we wouldn't have fish. "
The fundamental truth is that without wild fish for broodstock, we wouldn't have any hatcheries. Do you really think they mined all of those eggs out of thin air?
Historically, wild hens were stripped from every available watershed to feed the hatcheries' insatiable appetite for more eggs. Thankfully, such rampant abuse no longer exists on a large scale. But to this day, there are hatchery programs that continue to "mine" eggs from systems with healthy fish habitat. One must ask why we pull wild spawners off their redds and into a hatchery when science clearly shows that more recruits (future returning adults) would result if those spawners had just been left in the river to spawn naturally. Moreover, the subsequent reproductive success of those recruits has been shown to be much greater among fish with wild origins versus those produced by the hatchery.
Hatcheries were first conceived with the idea of replacing wild populations (decimated by various environmental assaults) with artificially propagated substitutes. With modern technology the popular view was that we no longer needed the rivers to make more salmon. Obviously some of our present-day decision makers still subscribe to the dangerous conceit that we can just make salmon the "old fashioned way".... we'll make them!
The century-long failure of hatcheries to mitigate for losses in wild fish populations is undeniable. And even the notion that hatcheries can be used to rebuild wild fish populations is tenable at best. The ESA was enacted to protect habitat for
self-sustaining wild populations. With rare exceptions hatchery fish are NOT self-sustaining. Counting them as "wild" makes absolutely no sense. It's just another way to gut hard-won ESA protections for our native anadromous fish stocks.
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