I heard something new today that got me wondering. It seems like even though the Commissions business is done in July, the White House will be unable to vet the document until after the election. Seems like an awfully long time to discern the security classification of the document. Wonder what they feel they need to hide from the electorate? Wonder how long it will take some opponent of GW to leak selected portions of the report to help "educate" the public? Wonder how many voters will operate under the principle of "Fool me once, shame on you, Fool me 20 times, shame on me!"

My other thought, can one of the Bush supporters on this board please explain the benefit of having GW and Cheney appear together before the Commission? Maybe I am so prejudiced that I am blind, but it sure does seem like the only reason is to have Cheney and Bush check with each other before they answer so that their stories are consistent. What am I missing here?

Eddie I think you need to get one of those white canes.

Where to begin

PM - Begin at the beginning. Please educate this ignorant liberal.

I asked a buddy of mine who is a diehard Bush supporter (he believes Clinton should be tried for treason) the question about Bush & Cheney together at the Commission. His answer, "GW needs adult supervision". When pressed for a better answer, he said that he couldn't come up with one. C'mon guys, PM, Plunk, The King somebody should be able to answer the question.

I think the administration believes what your friend believes, Eddie. And I think it's a bad political move on Bush's part.

Be patient, though. The other guys will get back with ya after checking with Drudge, National Review, Weekly Standard, and FDD. The scripts aren't quite prepared yet.

I think that starting at the beginning is an awful waste of time. As you stated already you are already so prejudice that you are blind. I really don't understand what it is exactly you are asking? If you are already an ignorant, blind, prejudice liberal what else needs explaining. I commend you for coming out and at least saying what we already know about libs. That's the first step, you are doing good. There may be some help for you. But, to sit here and ask a question and want to debate something that you have already come out and stated that you will not listen or take into account anything they try to debate is, as you said, ignorant. What's the point, to get a couple of your lib bro's together to try and mach and make fun without considering another's point of view??? It's just like all you libs, you preach equal rights and fairness but you are the first one's to stomp someone's head into the ground if they oppose your point of view.

Hope you can understand, now the rest of your libocons can have fun pickin the fleas of each others back and laugh about how us who walk upright live...

BTW Here are some fact that may sting a little so enter at your own risk Fact\'s


GH, I guess it would be okay if I perused NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC or just about any other media to find the news? Maybe even the PI or the times? I think it's pretty funny the along come FOX who is admittedly more conservative and all the libs jump all over it. One station out there and you guys are all over it. I think you are all just mad that it's not 100% controlled by the left anymore.

As far as NR, WS, FDD never read them.

Golly PM, What have I done to light your fire? Let's start with this simple question: What benefit is there to having the President & Vice President testify together at the 9/11 hearing? Obviously, my blind comment was somewhat tongue in cheek, but I really can find no benefit to the Administration or the Commission to testifying in this way. Maybe you can see something that I cannot.

Man, you'd think he could spare at lleast a couple of hours away from Crawford, you know, just to help out with National Security and all. :rolleyes:

PMartin..I liked your "facts" video...I'm sure it just pi$$e$ off the diehards here....Oh that is BS....look....Bush lied!!! Bush is a liar!!! Bush is the worst president EVER!!!.....

WHAT EVVVVER!!!

Harp Harp Harp.....grasping at straws looking for anything negative all the time 24/7....blah blah blah.....

What is the sin in GW and Cheney meeting together?.....what is your goal in complaining about it? Because they are keeping some big conspiracy secret that you want to REVEAL to the world about how they could have prevented 9/11? Come on boys get another iece of rotten meat to fight over.

How about your icon, Teddy Kennedy? Shouldn't he be in a straight jacket? or in a mental hospital....what about HIS testimony? He could really shed some light on what to do about terrorism in the future.

I deleted the poll as it was poor judgement to post it in the first place. Teddy Kennedy can probably put away a much bigger plate of biscuits and grazy than me too. I'll bet he can clear the room with a fart too. He is still a pathetic old dinosaur with predictable rhetoric. What he knows about national security is irrelevant in light of his use of the knowledge he does have. My knowledge of foreign affairs is not something I do for a living.

Grandpa wrote: What is the sin in GW and Cheney meeting together?.....what is your goal in complaining about it? Because they are keeping some big conspiracy secret that you want to REVEAL to the world about how they could have prevented 9/11? Come on boys get another iece of rotten meat to fight over.

Grandpa, let's see if we can get some reasonable dialogue going here, may not be likely, but a couple old warhorses like us should be able to do it.
1. I don't know that I believe GW and Cheney meeting together is a sin, it is certainly unusual and for those who are predisposed to conspiracy theories, it certainly provides fodder for them.
2. My goal in complaining about it - First, it is understanding. There may be an excellent reason for it that I am missing. If there is not an excellent reason then I am pointing out that if our President can not stand alone in front of a Commission, how can we expect him to deal with the other, more dangerous issues that he must face?
3. One thing I am pretty certain about - I do not blame GW for 9/11. I don't think that any Prez could have prevented 9/11. Let me go one step further. I thought GW reacted to 9/11 with grace under pressure and provided leadership that was desperately needed. Clearly his best moment.
4. I prefer not to fight over rotten meat.

So, I hope that the GW supporters on this board can provide the answers I seek. I am hoping that you can be more convincing than Scott McClellan (sp.?) was. Can you hear me now?

Is it possible Eddie that GW and Cheney meeting together is efficient use of time? Or does there just have to be a sinister reason? I think this whole commission has turned into a blame game and unfortunately is a partisan witch hunt.....shouldn't be that and I don't think the president is hiding anything. Of course, no matter what he does or what he says he will be bashed by people who hate him like you Eddie.

I don't buy the "effecient use of time" thing. We're only talking a couple hours, max. He spends A LOT of time in Crawford, I'd think he could spare a couple hours.

Wildfishlover - It may be an effecient use of time. That is a plausible explanation. In regards to the Commission being a "partisan blame game" - I know the Commission is composed of 5 Republicans and 5 Democrats. Not sure how they can be partisan, but you never know. Do I hate Bush? No, I don't know the man so there is no way I can hate him. Do I believe that his policies are flawed? You bet. Do I believe that he shouldn't be reelected? Amen.

(Did you like that Don Rumsfeld dialogue at the end)

Eddie...You and H2O need to watch the hearings tomorrow when Conde Rice gets grilled...ON WEED!!!!

Let me spell out what the complaints will be tomorrow night....She LIED..She could have stopped 9/11 but she LIED!!!!

She must be ON WEED

Face it Harley..You don't "buy" anything that GW and Cheney are selling....never will....not gunna do it.

Yeah, you're probably right. I did in the beginning, but they - they being the entire cabinet - took me down the wrong path.

I told you before that I think Bush has some of the greatest of intentions, but the people surrounding him are just plain wrong.