Warning this contains adult language.

http://www.blackstarsblog.com/bushin41point2.htm :p :p

Yeah Dave I think that is a pretty objective view of GW
Thanks for posting it

Warning: May contain painful truths

http://www.gop.com/news/Cartoon.aspx?id=680

GP: Thats was too funny.


But this is serious!

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/13/bush.criticism/index.html

They are right Bushs policies have hurt our relations with other countries. Countries that ave no interest in our welfare and know that they can only gain in our decline. It's also just the death rattle of the Left. They see that things in this country have gone as far left as they can go for a long time. Now things are swinging back to the middle and they will kick and scram all the way.

TK - If you consider GW and his cabal as being "middle", I would truly be scared to see what you consider conservative.

Eddie,

GW is closer to FDR democrats on fiscal policies than true right wing conservatives. Most only think him to be a hardcore conservatir because he is overtly christian. Hardcore conservatives would never allow expansionist govt.

So you are saying a single issue ,the war, makes him a Neocon? go look at the debates and votes leading up to our entry into WWII. Was Clinton a conservative for his War in the Balkans?

TK - I would agree with your comments about fiscal conservatism. This guy makes Hubert Humphrey look fiscally conservative. However, when we look at:

The War in Iraq
The Patriot Act
Ashcroft meddling in Oregon's suicide law

we see a brand of radical conservatism that is so far right as to flirt with the lunatic fringe. I'm probably just an old fart, but this guy doesn't meet the definition of conservatism as espoused by Barry Goldwater or even Ronald Reagan. Most true (in my mind) conservatives believe in:

Fiscal responsibility
Limiting the role of Government
Personal responsibility

We've already covered the first one. Bush and gang appear to be in favor of limiting the role of Govt. when it comes to environmental and business rulings. However, they expand the role of Govt. in regards to the "moral" issues and The Patriot Act. Once again, Personal responsibility is a double edged sword with this crew. It totally depends on where the Bush Govt. thinks you're going. Clinton may have been for sale. This group looks like they have been bought and paid for.

Eddie,

Is it fair to compare Reagan and Goldwater or even Clinton for that matter to GW without 911 to contend with?

Even clinton wanted to go into Iraq and thought it was the right thing to do. What stopped him the polls. I have some problems with the Patriot act . But polls show Americans would give up some freedoms for saftey. besides when whatevcer happens this summer in the US re AlQueda happens you gets the blame for letting it happen? Not JK.

I also think it is fair to criticze and compare the patriot act to environmental law. If you really looked into most environmental law it is just like the patriot act. They dissolves your rights like no other set of laws except those by the IRS. Yet most here think they relate only to industry. Few understand the quadruple safeguards provided by City, County, State and federal requirements. It's easier for Al Queda to work freely in the US than it is for a private landowner to build a farm pond in King county.

Eddie,

You needa new avatar. I thought I was talking with a kid all this time. 50 is old you are right but not as old as dirt

Eddie ...you may be an old fart but you can still

ROCK AND ROLL!!!! It's a long way to the top if ya wanna ROCK AND ROLL!!!

Don't forget those "Lonely Sheepherder Days"

New slogan

Democrats are wussies and will only take their hands out of the taxpayer's pockets long enough to raise them over their heads in surrender.

Vote Republican if you don't want to surrender.

paleoconservative n. a holder of outdated or old-fashioned conservative beliefs; a long-standing conservative. Also adj.

Don't worry KKKK I won't

Wow AM I see Leonardo Dicaprio jumped in to support Michael Moore and you. If JP Patches comes out in support of Farenheit 911 I may have to rethink my position. I never was a registered Patches Pal but I played one in grade school.

Hey Aunty M,

Did you know that John Kerry actually voted FOR the Patriot Act?--Before he decided he was against it.

That's what's so great about John Kerry--if you don't like his position on an issue, just wait because he'll change it just a soon as one of his focus groups suggests that it would be politically advantages to do so. That's leadership!

And since you brought up the Patriot Act ( the very thing that has helped to enabled our Government to keep us safe from domestic terrorist acts for nearly three years)--Can you name one personal freedom you have lost since it was enacted into law?


Also, I don't know where you got your definition of a neo-conservative; but in my opinion it has become a code word that people who are secretly Anti-Semitic use to label those on the right that who believe and campaign for a strong national defense and support of Israel.


Patriotic Sportsmen for Bush '04


P.S. I would encourage you to read TK's post on how to deal with the Nov. election results.


"If your not a liberal at twenty you have no heart--If your still a liberal at forty you have no brain."

Of course she cannot. But she can show you a recyled Vietnam War era arguement about how the president is in cahoots with corporate America to profit from a war and get rich themselves. Yet looking at the Tax data on all the presidents men showed now unexplainable spike in their incomes or networth for 20 years after the war. They used to have the MOB around to blame everything on.

If you'd rather choose someone who takes a position and sticks to it beyond all reason and logic then Bush is definitely your man.

The Patriot Act has prevented Terrorism exactly how. No blanket statements. Exactly how and what terrorism has it prevented? Also, name how many people Ashcroft has succesfully prosecuted. Not detained. Successfully prosecuted. You can count them on one hand.
One lost right is the fact that the FBI can now search your home without telling you prior to or afterwards. You do not need to be shown a warrant and you do not need to be present.
I like the Bush ad for idiots.....that Kerry wants to get rid of the Patriot Act which provided the same law enforcement ability against terrorists that were being used against drug dealers. What a bunch of BS.