...but right now at the UW mice with the same same genetic condition my son has (Osteogenesis imperfecta) are being cured (rendered asymptomatic) with a combination of gene therapy and stem cells injected directly into the bone

Will it work for my son? All indications are that it will ......but there is a ban on human stem cell research, isn't there?

I invite all of you Bush apologists to explain to my son why Bush's religious convictions should take precedence over his health.....

Personally I agree with Ron Reagan Jr.....what Righty is really afraid of is that the world will figure out that they are also against in vitro fertilization...not too many religious whackos left who still cling to that kind of archaic mentality are there?

A response on this is a no win. I hope for the best outcome for your son. Sincerely.

TheKing

quote ; "I hope for the best outcome for your son. Sincerely."

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Dumping Bush would definitely bring hope to many, including Josh. Don't need a weather Man to tell me which way the wind blows."

Stem cell research is a beacon of hope not only for your son, h2o, but for millions of people afflicted with a whole variety of serious illnesses.

I cross my fingers that this lunacy of standing in the way of stem cell research will end some day soon.

Those opposed to stem cell research claim the need for new lines of stem cells would encourage abortion. Bull, it's a red herring.

When your life doesn't depend on this research, it's easy to be against it. When your life depends on it, you tend to take it a little personally when someone dangles that red herring in your face.

The advancement in stem cell research and gene therapy is inevitable. I hope the timeframe allows your son to live a full, happy life Eric.

Sorry to hear about your son, stlhdh20.
Imagine that ,religious fanatics doing things that promote what they espous, yet would deny the opportunity to others so that they could have a chance at a normal life. I Could never understand why a group that says they are christian, would be so fast at judging others,seems pretty un-christian like to me.
Fishy..........

Fishy,

It conflicts with religon because the tissue used comes from a by product of abortion. If stem cells can be harvested in other ways religous people do not have an issue with it. If we did not have abortion there would be little to no tissue. A catch 22. The issue is compounded by the fact that a large portion of these religous people participate in birth control that really aborts the embryo in it's early stages. Most of them do not know this.

There's no catch-22 about it.

The aborted tissue is there. You can burn it, or extract stem cells from it to save people's lives.

Preventing stem cell research won't end, or even affect rates of, abortion. That's why it's a red herring........

Wave away.

DanS,

Agreed. But the fact that the majority of people have an issue with it being used because of it's source remains. I have watch edmy FIL for the past 14 years sit completely paralyzed while he dies more each day with a terrible disease. He is opposed to it , His wife and kids and 5 brothers are opposed to stem cell research. Profit from murder is not acceptable in their eyes. But they believe they have to answer to a higher authority.

It's OK with me if they don't want to partake in anything having to do with stem cell research.

I just wish they'd let everyone make it their own personal choice.

That is the slippery slope that creates the catch 22 how far do we take personal choice?

To "theking" of what? Another time for that.
Thank you clearly defining the patently obvious of why there is a conflict of interest with the realigious wrong. I could not agree MORE with Dan S. each should have the choice to make on their own. That is why the majority have voted that into law. Choice it is what makes this nation the best of earth.
With Bush being such a pro business president, you would think that all of the business's ready to start hiring to do stem cell research he would be all for it, after all he is for all of the business that Halliburton can do while stuffing money into its pockets, all from the blood of our fallen soldiers. I wonder what the families of those soldiers would have to say about stem cell research?.............Fishy..........

Aunty,

Some days you're just golden!

Sincerely,

Salmo g.

First you would have to buy into the promise of the research. Modern medicine is long on promise and short on delivery. They can abate symptoms but cure very few diseases. There is also a group of very advanced scientific thinkers that say medicine is creating more problems that they are curing for the simple reason that they are allowing the weak to live long enough to breed rather than be naturally selected out of the breeding pool. Creating a weaker human strain rather than a genetitically superior one as natural selection requires. Just one line of thinking.

Nope Darwin came up with that one. It's called natural selection. Hitler had a completly different idea. But I suppose the emotionalist in the crowd would applaud your lack of understandin and related poor comparison .

Short on delivery? As compared to what?

I'd rather be an alive diabetic than one still waiting for a cure. I think keeping people alive is the goal.

So you believe in evolution now?

I do not think keeping people alive is the goal at all. It's about funding and advancing a system of medical research for a variety of profit and ego driven motives. If we wanted to keep people alive there are much simpler steps that could be implemented. for example we would ban cars, smoking, fat foods, obesity and mandate healthy living. Those things alone would save more lives than they would save with some potential cure from Stem cell research. Yet like the spoiled americans we are we always want to believe that the golden ring being dangled before us is better than the one we caught yesterday. Take anitbiotics as a shining example of medical miracles. Nature is reversing thier effctiveness in a very deadly fashion faster than science can keep up with it.

Most of the time I can understand your point of view. This time, I'm almost left wishing illness on you.

When my son goes in for open-heart surgery next week, I'm going to be glad that your pitiful viewpoint hasn't stopped the advancement of medical technology yet.

I suppose we should just let him die, huh, because he wasn't given an evolutionary leg up? Dang spoiled Americans......wanting their kids to live.

:rolleyes:

Da ns,

Where did I say that? I said "There is also a group of very advanced scientific thinkers " that are saying interfereing with natural selection creates more problems that it resolves. Bottom line it's a chaotic system. That was intended for the Christian bashers who have posted here. To show how a strict humanist perspective with out temper of morals would be much worse than the Christian slanted policies we see today. I personally think we should help everyone we can. I do my small part by having Childrens Hospital #1 on my donation list. I wish only the best for your son.

Sorry, man..............I'm a little edgy this week. Lots on my mind and most of it isn't under my control.

I knew I shouldn't be responding considering my frame of mind, but I did anyway. My apologies.

Thanks for the good wishes, I appreciate it.