#268997 - 07/23/04 02:04 PM
I love Bill Maher....
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Paraphrasing:
'there's no comparison between Vietnam and Iraq......in Viet Nam, Dubya had an exit strategy'
ba dum dum
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#268998 - 07/23/04 03:39 PM
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I loved it when his show was canceled. He is anti gun, anti hunting a friend of PETA . I cannot belive any sportsman would support the guy in any way.
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#268999 - 07/23/04 03:41 PM
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....and what I love about him most is that righty hates him so much.
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#269000 - 07/23/04 03:57 PM
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stlhdh2o,
Do you think the world would be a better place with the fall of the US republic?
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#269001 - 07/23/04 04:49 PM
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Here ya go, Plunk: New Home You're obviously not happy living in a democracy, so I took the trouble of finding you a suitable home with a style of government more to your liking.
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#269002 - 07/23/04 05:17 PM
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Originally posted by Plunker:
stlhdh2o,
Do you think the world would be a better place with the fall of the US republic? There's always Canada, I hear that they grow some of the best glaucoma medication in the world.
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#269003 - 07/23/04 05:17 PM
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Not exactly, Plunk.
US imperialism, yes.
It starts with cleaning up the mess we made in the middle east after WW II. First step: Admitting that its even our problem. Until we in the 'republic' take responsibility we will be fighting the war on terror.
Fighting the war on terror should be our primary focus as a nation. It has not been, we've been too busy in Iraq. Should any president that makes a mistake that big, one that threatens our national security so egregiously, be given an opportunity to screw it up again? Even worse perhaps? Were another terrorist attack to occur on US soil in a second Bush term, would he try to blame Clinton?
...and is the thought of Kerry for four years THAT overwhelmingly bad in comparison to what we've seen out of Dumbya?
Should the ranks of Al Qaeda treble before you rate his presidency an abject failure?
Fall of the republic? Heck no, aim low. Start with the presidency and work to change certain aspects of US culture slowly over time.
I'm so radical.
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#269004 - 07/23/04 06:10 PM
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"I'm so radical."
Not even close your revisionist ideas are middle of the road for libs and fairly common among people that understand little about the M.E. Simplistic and naive are much better words in which to frame your thoughts.
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#269005 - 07/23/04 06:35 PM
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...just goes to show you, you're not a very good judge of character.
Its one amongst many things you have patently wrong. Like that Dumbya is a good president or good christians fight to protect their honor.
I don't need to speak to it. You've said it yourself. Everything is black or white. How much more 'simplistic' and 'naive' could I possibly be?
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#269006 - 07/23/04 07:07 PM
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H20,
I will assume that your post above was original thouhts of yours and not just stuff you drudged up from somewhere. lets start with this
"It starts with cleaning up the mess we made in the middle east after WW II"
Other than our support for Isreal there is only one or two minor issues since WWII that the Wahbbi clerics raise as an issue. So what do you reference here? Isreal ? That would fall under my Naive remark is so.
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#269007 - 07/23/04 07:53 PM
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I agree, your remark was naive.
I see you haven't taken my suggestion and read 'Imperial Hubris', or even taken a look at the author's credentials.
He speaks directly to what I've been saying is the starting point to stamping out terror. I wouldn't expect you to take anything critical of Bush's foreign policy seriously though, whether it came from my lil ol keyboard or that of the CIA's topmost expert on Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda.
Nope, I'd expect a chickenhawk like you to just go down with the ship, shouting the same old lines, believing the same old BS....
...glug, glug....
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#269009 - 07/26/04 01:50 AM
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As I've said before, they used to call those on right who wanted a strong national defense and unwavering support of Israel "Zionists".
Once people caught on to that wink-wink terminology, the left changed it so as not to appear anti-semitic. The new P.C. term the left has adopted is "neo-conservative".
As for the rest of your hypothesis about the establishment of a Jewish state--you really ought to crack open a history book, or AuntyM are opposed to doing anything that those ignorant "neo-conservaties" do?
The fact that you and stlhdH20 think that the problems in the middle-east started after WWII ended really speaks volumes about how much you understand the complexities and history of that region.
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#269010 - 07/26/04 01:56 AM
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AuntyM Do you mean the one where the US did everything possible to assure the European Jewish refugee population would have someplace else to settle BESIDES here? How anti-Semetic of all those God fearing Christians! After the Jews suffered and endured Hitler in WWII, we wouldn't welcome them here. A large percentage DID want to immigrate to the US instead of the "Holy Land" and we didn't want them. Only the very lucky ones were allowed to immigrate to the US. Ditto for the Brits. We will support Jews in Israel forever, as long as they don't come here and threaten our Christian dominance of the US. YUP! This mess was CREATED by hypocritical Christians... Most Jewish refugees had NO traceable Middle Eastern heritage, yet we forced many to settle there and forced the Arab population to live with it. Anyone opposing said policy is labeled "anti-Semitic", "rascist" or worse, when in reality, it was an anti-Semitic AND anti-Arabic policy in the first place. ------------------------------------------------------------ That is so absolutly true! A huge mistake that is costly and wrong. A logic that is next to imposible to rationalize or justify. Could be why we do so poorly with a deplomacy that's crippled by it's anti-Arab policies and all it's injustices. We will eventually have to notice what the rest of the World see's, as we turn a blind eye. It's like having an Elephant take a dump on top of the dinner table, and not be aware that it is offending someone else, because we've been condition to over look the out of control Elephant (with WMD), that is Isreal. Can't get the Genie back in the bottle.
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#269011 - 07/26/04 02:16 AM
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"The fact that you and stlhdH20 think that the problems in the middle-east started after WWII ended really speaks volumes about how much you understand the complexities and history of that region."
The fact that neither AuntyM or I said anything even resembling what you represented is testament to why your party is circling the drain like a turd in need of a broomstick.
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#269012 - 07/26/04 02:24 AM
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Originally posted by John Lee Hookum: We will support Jews in Israel forever--AM ------------------------------------------------------------ A huge mistake that is costly and wrong. A logic that is next to imposible to rationalize or justify. It's like having an Elephant take a dump on top of the dinner table, and not be aware that it is offending someone else, because we've been condition to over look the out of control Elephant (with WMD), that is Isreal. --John Lee Hookum [/QB] ----------------------------------------------------------- WOW! I really hope there are some Jewish fisherman out there reading this --I'm sure they'll appreciate having themselves, their families and their homeland being campared to a circus animal eliminating fecal matter.
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#269013 - 07/26/04 02:28 AM
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I'm pretty sure the elephant he is referring to is the republican party....
....pretty sure, anyway.
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#269014 - 07/26/04 02:32 AM
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Originally posted by stlhdh2o:
US imperialism, yes.
It starts with cleaning up the mess we made in the middle east after WW II. [/QB] ------------------------------------------------------------ Did I miss something?
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#269015 - 07/26/04 02:44 AM
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The IT I am referring to, for those that need it explained to them, is the beginning of the problems for our country in the region...
....and the root of 'terror'.
I shouldn't expect you'd be able to extrapolate that from the quoted sentence....
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#269017 - 07/26/04 04:31 AM
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Republicans have a never ending list of excuses for not going the extra intellectual mile.
Ironic isn't it that in this case its drug use?
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