Come on Dan--I posted several people on the left that I suggested represented the sentiments of many modern day liberals.

You poo-pooed the notion that I could have any undstanding of how liberals feel or think thereby inferring that you somehow knew better.

I didn't ask you to list four or five public pundits that speak for EVERY liberal, I was just interested in hearing who you thought represented of the liberal mindset more than the pundits I listed.

Come on I'm sure you can think of a few.

The only way you could honestly say that every thought or opinion you've ever had is entirely original, is if you were the only person on earth and had never read, watched or learned of anything that was created by another human.

I DO know better..........I'm a "liberal", and you're not. Now, why would I need any other person's opinion to reinforce my own? I have eyes and ears and a brain, all of which I use. I don't need Al Franken to tell me what I should think about Bush's response to the tsunami, and I don't need Sean Hannity to tell me how wonderful Bush is. I can figure it out on my own, thank you.

What you're doing is highlighting the opinion of a handful of "liberals", and making claims that this small group defines liberalism in this country. I can only give you MY opinion, and I really don't care to compare it to any pundit's opinion. I don't feel any particular need to support my own opinion by finding someone else who shares it.

Aunty,

OK, I won't say another word about AC. I might think kinky about her, but I don't want to be discussing it on the internet.

TK,

Right, she isn't worth my time. I think you're getting it. I don't call the Seattle Times. The Seattle Times occasionally calls me when they want my opinion on certain fisheries related topics.

Sincerely,

Salmo g.

Krusty, since you're so into pigeon-holing and labeling anyone left of your world, here's some notable quotes from historical conservatives. Since they seem to fit your social philosophy, I guess we can group you along with them.

What we have to fight for is the freedom and independence of the (nation) so that our people may be enabled to fulfill the mission assigned to it by the creator.

Strength lies not in defense but in attack. (As in "We must invade Iraq ...)

Socialism is a fraud, a comedy, a phantom, a blackmail.

The Liberal State is a mask behind which there is no face; it is a scaffolding behind which there is no building.

God will not forgive us if we fail.

As people do better, they start voting like Republicans - unless they have too much education and vote Democratic, which proves there can be too much of a good thing.

If the opposition disarms, well and good. If it refuses to disarm, we shall disarm it ourselves. (Bouche to Hussein? Not exactly.)

I never saw a contradiction between the ideas that sustain me and the ideas of that symbol, of that extraordinary figure, Jesus Christ.

Call it what you will, incentives are what get people to work harder.

In a fight you don't stop to choose your cudgels. (a la Rumsfeld)

The more bombers, the less room for doves of peace.

When one prays he goes to a source of strength greater than his own.


It would be no fun if I gave you the authors here, plus you wouldn't learn anything. Do some research to see if you should be categorized with the likes of these men simply because you share some common beliefs.

I've never liked journalists who paint so broad a brush as the title of this article does. I consider myself a moderate. It seems to indicate that if you consider yourself a liberal, you're on the same level as someone who beat and murdered his wife and her boyfriend. Like 100% of liberals think we aren't giving enough to tsunami aid, for example. I'm sure there's plenty of people who count themselves as conservatives who don't think we are either.

Ark,

Different types of Journalists. Her type is paid to say things the way she says them. The Seattle times is paid to report the news for the most part. Yet thier Editorial board endorses political candidates. I have more peoplem with that bias than what any Lib ,mod or conservative pundit says.