now that it is official that the white house has been lying thru their teeth about karl roves involvement in the outing of an undercove cia agent for political purpose, what are you conservatives going to say?

are you going to try and split hairs and redefine the meaning of the word "Is" like clinton or just admit that this is the most corrupt admin that has ever led or mis-led the coutry. and now we get alberto gonzales to investigate the Bush admin- what a crock of ****

Its time to trade in Bush's flight suit and oil for tar and feathers.

come on the king and other conservatives---- wiggle your way out of this one with the standard hypocricy and hair splitting and re-defining of what was said

we will say:
1. Rove hasnt admitted anything. He may have talked to a reporter but, perhaps he wasnt the first to do so and therefor not the leak.
2. The person in question was not an operative, not an undercover operative, or was unkown to Rove as an undercover op.

and finally, best and most important of all, we will say:

3. So you'd rather have Saddam back in power?

so the plan is to lie your way out. since everything you wrote is proven to be untrue....
besides bush said that he would fire anyone who was "involved" in the leak..... we now know that rove was "involved"

its fun to watch you hypocrites squirm under your own declarations

what do you expect us to do?

Own up to our actions and statements?
Tell the truth?
Have a thimblefull of integrity?

You have not been paying attention to our adminstration for the past five years then if thats what yo are after.

Lower your expectations. Of course we will lie!
Or at best difuse and throw the blame elsewhere.

Actually we need not do anything at all because the american public has the memory of a gnat. Its comical to think Downing Stret or this Rove thingy will affect our support in any way. We dont care, or cant remember , or are sure its just a liberal smear campaign. WE are lucky to be wearing these blinders, lest our faith falter. teehee! If Bush told us poo was good food, we'd be eating it for lunch diner and breakie, asking for secnds, and sending our first born sons off to fight in a poo war.

very well said

Well ol Karl is in a bit of a pickle!!! This story put me in mind of what the GM says about the manager who is about to be fired. Treason - pretty darn close if not all the way there. Do they still execute folks found guilty of treason? Now, that would be some irony!!!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8545657/

I thought one was required to be indicted and charged and then tried by a jury of his peers in this land? Every leagl mind in the US says based on the Email from newsweek it would be next to impossible to charge and even more remote to convict based on Rove's statements. I was unaware so many of you where tops in your legal professions

TK - maybe all the leagal minds are in agreement - but what about you - do you think that Rove walked the tightrope but absolutely meant to out this woman?

I don't know enough about it Eddie. I know Rove is a smart puppy so it would not suprise me. I also know that the woman in question was revealed about 8 years prior by the Russians and the Isrealis so in this case its more likely about politics than a national security issue.

... and the Patriot Act said, "Yeah, hehe, right."

Rove: "If I'm convicted of anything, homosexuals will be allowed to marry."

There......problem solved.

Salar,

"She has to be a covert agent or there would be no investigation due to the lack of a crime. "

Only if you assume that investigations are merit based and not politically motivated.

She was an analyst not a covert agent like Austin powers . It has been reported in many articles that her role was no secret since the 1996 outing by the Russians and isrealis. However if anyone reveled her name while she was still on the covert roles it would be a crime technically.

Oh, look, Elvis has another conspiracy theory. Typical of the neocon.

:rolleyes:

TK,

Rove is a sharp cookie. Most of us on both sides of the street agree to that, no problem.

But now he's implicated as a traitor to his country - - and you're defending the scumbag? What's in this for you, or is this just part of how you entertain yourself in this forum?

Sincerely,

Salmo g.

P.S. in all fairness, give him a fair trial with a jury of his peers before showing him the firing squad.

WOW..I can't believe I even opened this forum....

same old ....same old...different day.

Uhm I believe he was combing his hair!

Wednesday, July 13, 2005
In Case You Missed It: Karl Rove, Whistleblower


From The Wall Street Journal

Review & Outlook
July 13, 2005


Democrats and most of the Beltway press corps are baying for Karl Rove's head over his role in exposing a case of CIA nepotism involving Joe Wilson and his wife, Valerie Plame. On the contrary, we'd say the White House political guru deserves a prize--perhaps the next iteration of the "Truth-Telling" award that The Nation magazine bestowed upon Mr. Wilson before the Senate Intelligence Committee exposed him as a fraud.

For Mr. Rove is turning out to be the real "whistleblower" in this whole sorry pseudo-scandal. He's the one who warned Time's Matthew Cooper and other reporters to be wary of Mr. Wilson's credibility. He's the one who told the press the truth that Mr. Wilson had been recommended for the CIA consulting gig by his wife, not by Vice President Dick Cheney as Mr. Wilson was asserting on the airwaves. In short, Mr. Rove provided important background so Americans could understand that Mr. Wilson wasn't a whistleblower but was a partisan trying to discredit the Iraq War in an election campaign. Thank you, Mr. Rove.

Media chants aside, there's no evidence that Mr. Rove broke any laws in telling reporters that Ms. Plame may have played a role in her husband's selection for a 2002 mission to investigate reports that Iraq was seeking uranium ore in Niger. ... But it appears Mr. Rove didn't even know Ms. Plame's name and had only heard about her work at Langley from other journalists.

On the "no underlying crime" point, moreover, no less than the New York Times and Washington Post now agree. So do the 36 major news organizations that filed a legal brief in March aimed at keeping Mr. Cooper and the New York Times's Judith Miller out of jail. ...

In short, Joe Wilson hadn't told the truth about what he'd discovered in Africa, how he'd discovered it, what he'd told the CIA about it, or even why he was sent on the mission. The media and the Kerry campaign promptly abandoned him, though the former never did give as much prominence to his debunking as they did to his original accusations. But if anyone can remember another public figure so entirely and thoroughly discredited, let us know.

If there's any scandal at all here, it is that this entire episode has been allowed to waste so much government time and media attention, not to mention inspire a "special counsel" probe. ...

I also remember you pink tie wearing liberals defended Sandy Berger when he stuffed classified documents in his socks and underwear. You did so because you felt it was to the benefit of Kerry. So whomever is not guilty of partisan politics please cas tthe first stone.

Lupo,

Fish rot form the GI not the head.

1. who is sandy berger
2. that makes this okay?
3. Im never gonna wear a tie, and Im never gonna tell a lie.

why everytime this admin is criticized do people scramble to find something wrong with Clinton or whoever? That has what all to do with the wrong currently being done?

In any case you can compare all you want...no contest.
I'll take a blowjob scandal over sending our boys to die for halliburton stock profits anyday.

Chives,

Sandy Berger did that last fall it has nothing to do with Clinton.

I love the Haliburton stock conspiracy theory it's all apart of the New World Order conspiracy theory. It is a sickness.