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#281600 - 10/31/05 01:52 PM Re: Population Growth
PhishPhreak Offline
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And religion is providing the wrong answers, like it always has
I guess it really depends on what questions are being asked and who is being asked...

Here are some answers that many would consider 'right':

http://www.worldvision.org/worldvision/master.nsf/home/

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World Vision has been at the forefront of AIDS prevention, care and advocacy for more than a dozen years. In 1990, the Christian humanitarian organization launched its first AIDS-related program, helping orphans in Rakai, Uganda – the epidemic's ground zero. Other early programs involved helping Romanian children infected with the AIDS virus and providing support for Thai women and girls trying to escape prostitution. By the mid 1990s, World Vision began requiring its health programs worldwide to include HIV/AIDS-related training. Read more...

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The government of Niger declared a national emergency May 27 in response to the West African country's growing food shortage after drought and locust swarms destroyed most of the last year's harvest and nearly 40 percent of livestock fodder.

In his official declaration, Niger's Prime Minister Hama Amadou appealed to the international community for aid to help feed 3.6 million people, including some 800,000 children under the age of five.

Niger, with a population of about 12 million people, is one of the world's poorest countries. Most families earn less than a dollar a day. Even in the best years, 40 percent of children are malnourished and 25 percent die before they turn five.

World Vision has signed a contract with the World Food Program to distribute nearly 1,500 metric tons of food in response to the crisis. But nearly 224,000 tons will be required to meet the national need.

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In Gulu, a northern district of Uganda, World Vision runs the Gulu Children of War Center, a counseling center for former child soldiers. Started in 1995, the center receives abducted children, provides medical support and therapeutic feeding to the malnourished, and facilitates smooth reunion of the children with their families. More than 9,000 children and adults have passed through the center. The center also provides vocational skill training for formerly abducted children.

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and much more:

http://www.worldvision.org/about_us.nsf/child/ways_we_help_main?Open&lid=sector&lpos=body


PS - World Vision is a local (Fed Way) Christian relief and development organization.


Here's another one you may have heard of - the Salvation Army and a link to their services:

http://www.salvationarmyusa.org/usn/www_...CB?openDocument


And this is just in tiny sampling of what is going on out there...

In my current church, we just had a team of over 30 people return from building houses in Mexico for the poor. This is an annual trip.
Our pastor (a carpenter by trade) is currently in Mississippi with another team of church members helping rebuild after the hurricane dammage. We have something going on year round locally and internationally.


And of course I'm NOT saying that only Christians are doing good things around the world....

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#281601 - 11/06/05 01:21 PM Re: Population Growth
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No more than 2 kids per couple... replace yourself and the growth rate will flatten out. Learn how yo live within our means with a cap on population. Then, when we can figure out how to supply the energy, housing, food and water needs of more people, lift the lid accordingly.
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#281603 - 11/06/05 05:13 PM Re: Population Growth
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There are also some here that believe technology will get us out of this "energy problem" we're having.

There are even those that believe we should continue our current economic growth programs with unwavering support because...

"there is no scientific proof that our economic and energy policies are having an impact on the global climate." (some Bush flunky)

So what the hey... if there is no proof then climate change must not be happenin' and it must be OK to keep on doing what we're doing. Wrong.

We had better change and we had better do it now, and not for the next generation (or the next adminstration) where we may have grown by another 20, 30, or 40% (depending on how vigorously people of child-bearing ages reproduce).
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#281604 - 11/06/05 08:53 PM Re: Population Growth
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There is one big problem with the concept of self impossed limits on kids... A great example of this issue can be seen in France today. The more 'enlightened' people are quickly fading away (population wise) and the amount of foreigners (mostly muslim) are taking over. Basically, unless you can enforce it globally, all your're really doing is allowing your 'kind' (those who agree with limitting the amount of kids they have and other environmentally friendly life choices) to be replaced at a faster rate by those who could care less beyond what happens today.

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#281605 - 11/06/05 09:10 PM Re: Population Growth
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Registered: 11/06/05
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Loc: Western Washington
hmmmm...

I've heard of the "arms race" (in military terms) but I don't think I've heard of the "offspring race."

If we assume that this is what is occurring I would make an observation. The problem with the "offspring race" is that in most regions of the globe where it is practiced, people do not produce enough food to provide for the populations... and many die a horrible death. More reason to implement change.

PS Not being negative here but I would not use anything that is going on in France as an example of something happening anywhere else... the government in that country is unique if not totally bizzare.
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#281606 - 11/07/05 11:14 AM Re: Population Growth
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Registered: 10/10/03
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"PS Not being negative here but I would not use anything that is going on in France as an example of something happening anywhere else... the government in that country is unique if not totally bizzare."

The same thing is happening in Italy, Germany, The Netherlands and a few more European nations.
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#281608 - 11/07/05 01:33 PM Re: Population Growth
PhishPhreak Offline
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Registered: 06/19/01
Posts: 1066
Loc: North Bend, WA
"The problem with the "offspring race" is that in most regions of the globe where it is practiced, people do not produce enough food to provide for the populations... and many die a horrible death."

True. Desperate people. Billions of desperate people. Sounds like the ingredients for WWIII. Of course, something as big as WWIII will 'help' with this population growth issue (assuming we survive to see it through...).

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