#36803 - 10/20/06 03:30 PM
Re: Chums
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Spawner
Registered: 10/20/04
Posts: 921
Loc: Bothell
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hey fishingfool: not trying to give you a hard time, but i think 50# is a bit over estimated. that would beat all the state and world records by at least 15 lbs!!! got a pic??
Chum Salmon Fredrick Thynes 32 lb. 0 oz. 1985 Pacific Ocean, Caamano Point Alaska United States
Chum Salmon Roger Nelson 23 lb. 0 oz. 1990 Kilchis River Oregon United States
Chum Salmon Johnny Wilson 27 lb. 15.52 oz. 10/19/97 Satsop River Grays Harbor Washington United States
Chum Salmon Fred Dockendorf 25 lb. 4.16 oz. 8/7/01 Pacific Ocean, near Grays Harbor Washington United States
Salmon, Atlantic 79-2 Tana River, Norway 1928 Henrik Henriksen
Salmon, chinook 97-4 Kenai River, AK May 17, 1985 Les Anderson
Salmon, chum 35-0 Edye Pass, Brit. Columbia July 11, 1995 Todd Johansson
Salmon, coho 33-4 Salmon River, Pulaski, NY Sept. 27, 1989 Jerry Lifton
Salmon, lake 18-4 Lake Tanganyika, Zambia Dec. 1, 1987 Steve Robinson
Salmon, pink 13-1 St. Mary's River, Ontario Sept. 23, 1992 Ray Higaki
Salmon, sockeye 15-3 Kenai River, AK Aug. 9, 1987 Stan Roach
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#36804 - 10/20/06 08:15 PM
Re: Chums
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 6732
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I knew somebody would come out with the elitist snob comment... A poor quality eating fish should be left in the river to feed smolt in my opinion. The chum runs that people now think are huge are but a fraction of what they were 20 years ago. Back when January was a complete stink fest everywhere on the rivers.
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#36805 - 10/20/06 09:17 PM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 6732
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Here's a good link for you Chumsters: http://wdfw.wa.gov/fish/chum/recipe.htm Can these people actually taste any fish after putting all that stuff on?
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#36809 - 10/21/06 07:29 AM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 11/07/99
Posts: 2685
Loc: Yelmish
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nah, those people are probably fishing the nisqually right now.
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#36810 - 10/21/06 02:17 PM
Re: Chums
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Anonymous
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Originally posted by Jamie: My god what a bunch of snobs.
I take that as a compliment... Thanks "Piscatorial Purist" has a nice ring doensn't it? :p
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#36811 - 10/21/06 05:59 PM
Re: Chums
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River Nutrients
Registered: 08/26/04
Posts: 2744
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Piper's secret November fishing grounds... Funny how two or three, dark fiesty chum, will distract 25 guys from seeing the chrome ho's just downstream. By November I'm not usually feeling to generous to point things like that out either. I would like to add that the worst thumb blister I've had was from a chum the size of that freakshow boxer, Butterbean. It whooped my ass bad. I cried like a little French schoolgirl who just skinned her knee.
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#36812 - 10/21/06 06:32 PM
Re: Chums
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Spawner
Registered: 10/26/05
Posts: 808
Loc: Backwoods of Kentucky
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Pound for pound, Chum fight as hard or harder than any other salmonoid. I dont ever take any home, but they great for a good arm pull when nothing else is around.
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#36813 - 10/21/06 09:33 PM
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Returning Adult
Registered: 09/15/06
Posts: 413
Loc: Low Road
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Originally posted by Rafterman45: I dont ever take any home, but they great for a good arm pull when nothing else is around. Then it is true, Chum are the Fat Girls of fish.
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#36814 - 10/21/06 11:27 PM
Re: Chums
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Alevin
Registered: 12/19/01
Posts: 12
Loc: SW WA
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IIRC, Keta is the native name used by peoples along the Kamchatka Penn. where the chum was first cataloged in the 1700's. Latin for Dog is Canis which why dogs are canines etc.
It's really not even the correct term either. Its a Russian brutalization of the Siberian Yupik(?) that actually meant "fish" if I remember correctly. Named a dog this once. Keta=dog salmon= name of a dog. Not everybody gets it. Plus they pronounce it with a short e sound instead of how the french would say with an accent ague.
Either way, they pull like heck on fly or conventional gear.
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#36815 - 10/22/06 06:08 AM
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Fish Fear Me
Registered: 10/12/05
Posts: 3275
Loc: Port Angeles
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Do you guys not realize that it's their scientific name?? Oncorhynchus keta...
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#36817 - 10/22/06 01:23 PM
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Juvenille at Sea
Registered: 11/27/03
Posts: 195
Loc: Sequim,Wa
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I have caught several on the peninsula here as bright as the one Zog is holdin and much bigger, some of these peninsula chum run have fish that average 20lbs especially the stream i grew up on!!! I've seen them pushing pushing thirty and chrome bright! Shoulder killers and yes, good if they are bright and ur able to keep them and the eggs are the best as well!!! A 50lb chum, did u eat a 50lb bag of mushroooms first?
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#36818 - 10/22/06 01:40 PM
Re: Chums
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Fish Fear Me
Registered: 10/12/05
Posts: 3275
Loc: Port Angeles
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Chris, I'll back your story up on that one... =) I've caught chums out of a few local streams that were pushing upper 20's... You need to call me sometime man!
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#36820 - 10/22/06 03:11 PM
Re: Chums
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Juvenille at Sea
Registered: 11/27/03
Posts: 195
Loc: Sequim,Wa
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Tom, no prob, but sheila had ur number in here phone i think and we split so, yeah, shoot me ur number, i'm really busy with work, but i've managed to find a few days to fish! Building rods right now, its time to start the harvest!!! Been catchin a few fish here and there, i'll pm u my number!!!
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#36821 - 10/22/06 03:17 PM
Re: Chums
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Juvenille at Sea
Registered: 11/27/03
Posts: 195
Loc: Sequim,Wa
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Originally posted by TBird: Chris, I'll back your story up on that one... =) I've caught chums out of a few local streams that were pushing upper 20's... You need to call me sometime man! Alright TBONE, stay outta my hole knuckledragger lmfao!!
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#36822 - 10/23/06 04:48 PM
Re: Chums
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Smolt
Registered: 09/21/06
Posts: 84
Loc: Hood Canal
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I did a little research and found this: www.seafoodcanada.gc.ca/chum_salmon-e.htm <start> Pacific Chum Salmon Silver-bright, semi-bright, dark; summer; keta. Sometimes known as "dog" salmon because of the large teeth the species develops at spawning time. Oncorhynchus keta "Silver-bright" is the commonly used term for top quality ocean-run chum; the skin on this fish is shiny silver. "Semi-bright" describes a more mature fish with watermarks that do not extend below the lateral line. Chum with watermarks extending below the lateral line are commonly referred to as "dark"; the skin is gray to black with occasional red mottling below the lateral line. The flesh colour of chum salmon also varies, depending on the maturity of the fish but also, it seems, on its river of origin. Most silver-bright chums have reddish-pink flesh which loses colour the closer it gets to fresh water. Dark chums may have pink flesh, but the meat is soft and lacking in flavour. <end> I once caught a real bright chum (thought it was a BIG coho at first) in Dewatto bay on Hood Canal but most of the fish I see in Hood Canal are pretty dark olive green with the red mottling birth mark look to them.
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