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#39003 - 10/30/06 04:27 PM VIGILANTE JUSTICE
Sol Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 12/19/03
Posts: 7477
Loc: Poulsbo
Enough pissing and moaning about tweeker break-ins. How about we take care of it Charles Bronson style? Lets brainstorm some theft deterrents that we could easily manufacture and install in our vehicles when we are out fishing?

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#39005 - 10/30/06 04:38 PM Re: VIGILANTE JUSTICE
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#39006 - 10/30/06 04:45 PM Re: VIGILANTE JUSTICE
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Registered: 01/17/04
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Loc: Sheltona Beach
I wouldn't suggest taking them down to the mud flats at low tide and let the crabs have at them as they are stuck there. wink
Watching over our vehicles will only get you so far. Besides, crab need to eat too. My 16ft jet has a 53gal capacity. plenty of range. beer
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#39007 - 10/30/06 04:53 PM Re: VIGILANTE JUSTICE
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Registered: 07/11/02
Posts: 608
Loc: Renton , WA
You got me thinking here SOL. How about chemical warfare. This may work but I will have to come up with a way to put it on the rig and get it to go off when the tweaker breaks in. I would also have to make sure that any inocents werent wrongly gassed when they bumped my rig.

chloropicrin
CHLOROPICRIN [chloropicrin] , colorless oily liquid used as a poison gas . It is a powerful irritant, causing lachrymation, vomiting, bronchitis, and pulmonary edema; lung injury from chloropicrin may result in death. Trace amounts in the air cause a burning sensation in the eyes, which serves as a warning of exposure. Chloropicrin is more toxic than chlorine but less toxic than phosgene . It is relatively inert and does not react with the chemicals commonly used in gas masks. It has been extensively used as a vomiting gas by the military. It is also used industrially in small amounts as a warning agent in commercial fumigants and as an insecticide and disinfectant for grain. Chloropicrin has the formula CCl 3 NO 2 . It boils at 112°C with partial decomposition to phosgene and nitrosyl chloride.

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#39008 - 10/30/06 04:53 PM Re: VIGILANTE JUSTICE
Jamie Offline
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Registered: 12/30/04
Posts: 151
Loc: Kirkland
You're right Slab, that would be a terrible idea. BTW, how do you propose transporting them?
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#39009 - 10/30/06 04:59 PM Re: VIGILANTE JUSTICE
Sol Offline
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Loc: Poulsbo
Troller: You're on the right track ma-man. Could be a simple as leaving some cash sticking out of your ash tray. It's the first thing they are gonna grab. Except within the roll of money you could hide a small amount of Hydrocloric or Muratic Acid in, say a small toothpaste container with the top half cut-off. When they grab it, it ouzes out on their hand. That's bad shi%, man. He's one hurtin' MF'r.

Just clue your turn around guy in to leave it alone.

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#39010 - 10/30/06 05:09 PM Re: VIGILANTE JUSTICE
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Jamie, Alive, of course. laugh Just think of them struggling, and sinking deeper; the crabs crawling all around, waiting for the opportunity to get the soft tissue. laugh The bones would just get burried in the shifting sands.

Happy Halloween!
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#39012 - 10/30/06 05:19 PM Re: VIGILANTE JUSTICE
Krijack Offline
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Registered: 06/03/06
Posts: 1527
Loc: Tacoma
Troller and Sol,
I have thought about the same thing, but in a less lethal or potentially liable way. Perhaps leaving a small box or wallet in view on the seat. When they open it a dye packet explodes, similar to at a bank. In addition, just for our pleasure, a good dose of pepper spray also nails them. While it may not have the ultimate effect I would like, it may still deter them a little and at least make them identifiable for a short period.

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#39013 - 10/30/06 05:27 PM Re: VIGILANTE JUSTICE
Sol Offline
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Registered: 12/19/03
Posts: 7477
Loc: Poulsbo
By elegant I mean simplistic, Aunty.

Liability can easily be side-stepped with a simple warning on the window, stating that the vehicle is equipped with a chemical theft deterant, which would of course be a deterant in itself. But, it needs to be backed-up with the real deal.

The possibilities are limitless with a little research and creativity. BTW: I'll keep my little set-up to myself.

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#39014 - 10/30/06 05:35 PM Re: VIGILANTE JUSTICE
Chumlicker Offline
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Registered: 02/23/06
Posts: 25
Loc: Gig Harbor
"Liability can easily be side-stepped with a simple warning on the window"

You cannot waive liability on a trap intended to harm or entrap humans with any disclosure signed or unsigned. You would also waive your insurance coverage and open yourself up to a lawsuit that could cost you everything you own.

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#39015 - 10/30/06 05:35 PM Re: VIGILANTE JUSTICE
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Registered: 08/14/03
Posts: 478
Loc: Between 2 Mountains
I like the fishhooks welded to 100 lb cable in the door handle that someone did on one of these sites. evil
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#39016 - 10/30/06 05:45 PM Re: VIGILANTE JUSTICE
Ichtyoid Offline
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Registered: 03/17/06
Posts: 930
Loc: Olympia
Deterrent?

Dead men tell no tales. How will the tweakers spread the word?

Here's my suggestion:

Park a car at a launch, a nice one, maybe with an obvious tool box or something valuable in the back, plainly visible.

Get 9 or 10 guys together and lay in wait. You could even make a good time of it camping style with loaded film canisters and plenty of beer, as long as there's someone on sentry watching the bait car with a radio to let you know when someone takes the bait.

When the Tweakers arrive, jump their asses ambush style and take them captive. Might mean blocking their car in or holding them at gunpoint. When you have them strip them down, tie them up to trees around your campfire, douse them in gasoline and work them over with pick handles while you torment thier flammable asses with lit matches. Leave them to rot tied up like that.

Might want to wear masks for that kind of thing.
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#39017 - 10/30/06 05:47 PM Re: VIGILANTE JUSTICE
Sol Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 12/19/03
Posts: 7477
Loc: Poulsbo
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You cannot waive liability on a trap intended to harm or entrap humans with any disclosure signed or unsigned. You would also waive your insurance coverage and open yourself up to a lawsuit that could cost you everything you own.
Yeah..I figured that statement would bring out the truth. Therein lies the problem with this country: Law and Politics favor those with little to lose.

If some tweeked-out loser wants to take down my licence plate and come after me in court after he's been mamed so be it.

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#39018 - 10/30/06 05:56 PM Re: VIGILANTE JUSTICE
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How about something enticing in a vase type opening where you can't draw your hand back out without dropping the object. Tweaker will never let go.
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#39019 - 10/30/06 05:57 PM Re: VIGILANTE JUSTICE
fish4brains Offline
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Registered: 08/23/06
Posts: 6206
Loc: zipper
How about a sweatshirt draped over a bear trap in the back of the 4 runner. Maybe a wallet laying on top like cheese in a mouse trap. It doesn't take $10,000 worth of [Bleeeeep!] to attract a tweaker, try a decent rod and reel or a $20 bill.
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#39020 - 10/30/06 06:19 PM Re: VIGILANTE JUSTICE
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Registered: 12/12/04
Posts: 1483
Loc: wa/ak
the ultimate irony would be to show up at their house, kick down their door and bust all their meth equipment.
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#39021 - 10/30/06 06:19 PM Re: VIGILANTE JUSTICE
stlhead Offline
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Let's start a tagging and neutering program. Dart them, ear tag them, neuter them (can't reproduce) and let them go for tracking. I bet we could get on Natl Geo?
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#39022 - 10/30/06 06:24 PM Re: VIGILANTE JUSTICE
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Registered: 05/17/01
Posts: 942
Loc: Almost on the beach
Next time you see a bunch of broken auto glass in the parking lot pick it up. Put the broken pieces in a container and save them. Next time you park your rig by the river just roll one window all the way down and sprinkle the broken glass pieces all over the ground. Open your glovebox, center console and mix up the contents.

The tweakers will think that somebody beat them to the punch and leave your stuff alone.
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#39023 - 10/30/06 06:25 PM Re: VIGILANTE JUSTICE
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Registered: 04/02/06
Posts: 1672
Loc: in da hood
Ichtyoid-I like yer idea best. It's more Charles Bronson style. He was always about people taking power into their own hands.

Seems to be enough of us here on this thread already.


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#39024 - 10/30/06 06:28 PM Re: VIGILANTE JUSTICE
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 6732
Good one Sauk. Create a tweaker turf war so they kill each other.
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