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#396152 - 12/13/07 05:14 PM mitchell report....mlb steroid era
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Here is a link to the complete Mitchell report. This reports alot of names of players who took roids or hgh during thier career.

MITCHELL REPORT LINK


Here is a list of some notbale players:

Barry Bonds
Roger Clemens
Andy Pettitte
Jason Giambi
Gary Sheffield
Miguel Tejada

there are many many other names...some pretty suprising some you already know

i'm really pissed about Gary Matthews Jr. because he has been a Mariner's killer the last couple years...ridiculous

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#396158 - 12/13/07 05:27 PM Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era [Re: mreyns_tgl]
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#396162 - 12/13/07 05:33 PM Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era [Re: stlhead]
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Quite a few pitchers on that list.
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#396168 - 12/13/07 05:48 PM Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era [Re: stlhead]
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They were just talking on KJR regarding the 2001 Mariners. They of course lost the ALCS to the Yankee's after their record breaking regular season.
Andy Pettite won two games as the MVP of that series and Clemens started another game the Yaks won.
They failed to mention though that they were throwing against guys like Popeye Bret Boone.
You've got to love a good conspiracy theory.

I think there are a lot more guys then just the 80 or so that they named. Some were just smarter then the others, like playing cash rather then writing checks for their roids.

You have to wonder if Clemen's throwing the bat a Mike Piazza was a case of roid rage?
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#396176 - 12/13/07 06:01 PM Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era [Re: stonefish]
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Funny how both the Giambi brothers were both 'roiding. Runs in the family you know ;\)
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#396177 - 12/13/07 06:02 PM Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era [Re: Jerry Garcia]
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Next to fishing, baseball was the thing I loved as a kid. I not only enjoyed playing and watching the game, I loved the game itself. Somewhere along the line, they lost me though. Players being constantly traded, no loyality from a player to his team, no loyality from a team to its players, tons of tax dollars for stadiums, and a league that isn't too far off from being mafia run. The whole McGuire/Sosa HR chase the "brought the fans back after the strike" did nothing for me. I couldn't believe people would look at me funny when I said how obvious it was that McGuire was on steroids. The guy was 35 years old and had bad acne. Since then, it has only gotten worse.

I'd put the NBA right in the same light. I used to love watching it but there is corruption from the top down and some game winners are virtually picked by the refs.

The NFL is mafia-run too but at least it is exciting to watch and the competition seems real.

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#396178 - 12/13/07 06:04 PM Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era [Re: Brad_tgl]
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clemens was always a hero for me. kind of a let down
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#396182 - 12/13/07 06:25 PM Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era [Re: DUCMAN]
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So now with all of this hype is out of the box, no need for the alleged asterisk next to Bonds' name. If the pitchers were juicing, then the way I see it, is that Bonds was just putting himself on a fair playing field.

It's all a conspiracy. Mitchell is in tight with the Bo-Sox and is tainting his report the way he wants it to read. If anyone has watched Manny Ramirez through his career, and all his changes, there is no other explanation but for him to be on enhancers. Amazingly, Mitchell failed to add Manny to his list.

Media hype....


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#396184 - 12/13/07 06:36 PM Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era [Re: Thrasher]
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What are you talking about thrasher....manny has been solid since he came into the league...

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#396191 - 12/13/07 06:53 PM Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era [Re: mreyns_tgl]
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So was Barry. The reason is because of how big he has been for the past few years, basically up until last year. Then this year his uniform was a little bigger than normal, and he missed some time due to injury. It’s just an opinion though.

Manny Stats

A little spike in HR’s from 1998 to 2005. Coincidence? Maybe, but I think not.

Again, merely my opinion.

Also, would anyone think that Bonds' stats were odd just by looking at them, except for his 73 HR year??

Bonds Stats



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#396229 - 12/13/07 08:02 PM Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era [Re: Thrasher]
AP a.k.a. Kaiser D Offline
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 Originally Posted By: Thrasher
Bonds was just putting himself on a fair playing field.

... Amazingly, Mitchell failed to add Manny to his list.


I don't buy the "level playing field" because you are putting his stats against other greats of the game. It might be a "level playing field" for the era (I don't even buy that) but his stats shouldn't be able to be compared to people like Hank Aaron.

And just because Manny (or anyone else) isn't on the list doesn't mean there is some conspiracy. Maybe he was just smarter about how he did it? They clearly aren't going to catch everyone. Some of these were easy finds though and were based on canceled checks or first hand info from other players or trainers.

The other thing that seems strange to me is that people are already saying things like, "Yeah, that was steroid era in the late 90's", as if none of this continued up to the most recent seasons? And shame on the league for trying to punish Giambi a while back when he was trying to be open about what had happened. All that did was make everyone shut up and continue denying everything.

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#396246 - 12/13/07 09:03 PM Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
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I wish they would hurry up and snuff all of this out, it really has messed up my fantasy baseball leagues. It is tough to pick someone to hit 50 HR's now, let alone 40.

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#396276 - 12/13/07 10:49 PM Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era [Re: Thrasher]
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List of Players Named in Mitchell Report
AP
Posted: 2007-12-13 16:42:17
Here's a list of most of the names Major League Baseball players listed in the Mitchell Report.

The following players were connected to steroids, either use or possession, in the report:

Lenny Dykstra

David Segui

Larry Bigbie

Brian Roberts

Jack Cust

Tim Laker

Josias Manzanillo

Todd Hundley

Mark Carreon

Hal Morris

Matt Franco

Rondell White

Andy Pettitte

Roger Clemens

Chuck Knoblauch

Jason Grimsley

Gregg Zaun

David Justice

F.P. Santangelo

Glenallen Hill

Mo Vaughn

Denny Neagle

Ron Villone

Ryan Franklin

Chris Donnels

Todd Williams

Phil Hiatt

Todd Pratt

Kevin Young

Mike Lansing

Cody McKay

Kent Mercker

Adam Piatt

Miguel Tejada

Jason Christiansen

Mike Stanton

Stephen Randolph

Jerry Hairston

Paul Lo Duca

Adam Riggs

Bart Miadich

Fernando Vina

Kevin Brown

Eric Gagne

Mike Bell

Matt Herges

Gary Bennett

Jim Parque

Brendan Donnelly

Chad Allen

Jeff Williams

Exavier "Nook" Logan

Howie Clark

Paxton Crawford

Ken Caminiti

Rafael Palmeiro

Luis Perez

Derrick Turnbow

Ricky Bones

Ricky Stone

The following players were cited under "Alleged Internet Purchases of Performance Enhancing Substances By Players in Major League Baseball."

Rick Ankiel

David Bell

Paul Byrd

Jose Canseco

Jay Gibbons

Troy Glaus

Jason Grimsley

Jose Guillen

Darren Holmes

Gary Matthews Jr.

John Rocker

Scott Schoeneweis

Ismael Valdez

Matt Williams

Steve Woodard

The following players were linked through BALCO:

Benito Santiago

Gary Sheffield

Randy Velarde

Jason Giambi

Jeremy Giambi

Bobby Estalella

Barry Bonds

Marvin Benard
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#396286 - 12/13/07 11:30 PM Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era [Re: ]
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Imagine how bad Chuck Knoblauch would have really been without roids. Wow, that could have been really horrible to see him throw, or attempt to throw to 1st base while not juiced.

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#396302 - 12/14/07 12:09 AM Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era [Re: Thrasher]
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I didn't see Bret Boone listed in any of the reports. Jose named him in his book.
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#396353 - 12/14/07 01:33 AM Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era [Re: Steelheadman]
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Is this really a surprise? The only thing that would be surprising to see if Selig does something about it but he's to hell bent on keeping Pete Rose out.

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#396457 - 12/14/07 01:11 PM Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era [Re: ]
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FYI..Did you know that a side affects of taking steroids, is that is causes the Penis to shrink to the size of a cocktail peanut? OUCH!! This comment was made by Lyle Alzado's personal Physician.


Edited by John Lee Hookum (12/14/07 01:33 PM)
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#396459 - 12/14/07 01:23 PM Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era [Re: John Lee Hookum]
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And what about the NBA, those guys are monsters.

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#396486 - 12/14/07 02:14 PM Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era [Re: chasbo]
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The guys that are involved in the production of the baseball bats are affiliated with BALCO as well. The baseball bats have been made with wood that has been chemically cured to have a faster flex-response time in the fibers. Thereby creating a higher springlike reaction once the ball comes in contact with the bat.

Yep, I can see it now, they better go after the bat manufacturers.

Also, Nike has made a shoe guaranteed to make them run the bases faster. Better go after them too.

Where will it stop.

obviously I am being facetious here, I just think that you can point your finger at about anything in the leagues these days.

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#396489 - 12/14/07 02:16 PM Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era [Re: chasbo]
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Basketball players don't need bulk, because basketball is more like a ballet and requires fine motor skills. Steroids would render basketball players rigid and mechanical, like Robots. Besides, Basketball player love having sex with all the groupies.

Now when you mention... crack, guns and gangs, that's another thing. Seems to be the same for football as well, but with football, you can add one more...the addiction for watching mutts fights, as Michael Vicks was.


Edited by John Lee Hookum (12/14/07 02:17 PM)
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#396514 - 12/14/07 02:41 PM Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era [Re: ]
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To those that'd rather have this swept under the rug:

Do you think Ben Johnson should still be considered the fastest man in the world and have his medals?

Should the butt ugly German olympic swim team still be dominating womens swimming?

Where does it end?

On a side note...it strikes me funny that the PGA is implementing drug testing. Is there a drug out there that improves your swing because I want some.
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#396526 - 12/14/07 03:04 PM Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era [Re: ]
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Is Blades on that list?

\:D
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#396548 - 12/14/07 03:30 PM Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: Abu-Loomis
 Originally Posted By: parker
Is Blades on that list?

\:D





WOW! Here we go again, it's Blades bashing time. That's to bad. Prepare yourself Merg, you will be next I'm sure.
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#396553 - 12/14/07 03:42 PM Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era [Re: John Lee Hookum]
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 Originally Posted By: John Lee Hookum
Prepare yourself Merg, you will be next I'm sure.


You're joking right???

If anything, The Merg should be REQUIRED to take some rhoids! That kid is skinny as a rail!

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#396560 - 12/14/07 03:57 PM Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era [Re: Thrasher]
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 Originally Posted By: Thrasher


Manny Stats

A little spike in HR’s from 1998 to 2005. Coincidence? Maybe, but I think not.


Could have a little something to do with a move out of 'the mistake by the lake' and into The Fens... ya think?

Here's how I see it: MLB had a don't ask don't tell policy on roids, they liked the action they were seeing on the field and they didn't want to know what was causing it. Chicks (and other fans too) dig the long ball, period. Ball parks got smaller, the mound got lower, and pitchers were getting rocked... they needed a little help, so bring on the HGH.

You can't really compare Bonds to Aaron, or Aaron to Ruth... the game was different when they played. Ruth hit a ton of homers late in games when the pitcher had already thrown 120 pitches, and the short porch at the Stadium helped too. Aaron played it pretty hitter friendly parks durring an era where relievers came in only sparingly and there were't a bunch of bullpen specialists like there are now. Bonds played in the Juiced age, not just the players, but the equipment too! What's everyone going to say when A-Rod hits #800? I'm sure they'll try to tear him down too. Steroids weren't against the rules, some chose to sell their souls, some didn't... let them live (or die... just ask Caminiti) with the consiquences.

It is what it is... now they have rules and somewhat stiff penalties for violations, lets see where that goes. I'll keep watching baseball, but I'd rather watch High Schoolers or Pony Leaguers. It'll be interesting to see what the fall-out is... but I'm not holding my breath waiting for ol'Bud to "make it all right". ~josh
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#396573 - 12/14/07 04:23 PM Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era [Re: Metal Head]
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"Steroids weren't against the rules"

They are against the law.
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#396576 - 12/14/07 04:33 PM Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era [Re: Metal Head]
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How many anglers do you think are on roids, those Bass guys sure are bulked up in the belly.
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#396586 - 12/14/07 04:48 PM Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era [Re: ]
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or HEMroids
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#396588 - 12/14/07 04:48 PM Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era [Re: stlhead]
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or in some cases HEMProids
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#396594 - 12/14/07 04:58 PM Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era [Re: stlhead]
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 Originally Posted By: stlhead
"Steroids weren't against the rules"

They are against the law.



What about the HGH that's prescribed by a Dr.... or the ones that are available outside the US... or the androwhatever that McGuire used... or any other over-the-counter supliment that can aid in testosterone production? You can call them felons, or druggies, or whatever... but technically they weren't 'cheaters'. Do I condone it? NO WAY... but I can understand how it can happen. ~josh
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#396596 - 12/14/07 05:03 PM Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era [Re: Metal Head]
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So are you saying they all had prescriptions and they need to go after the doctors? Anabolic steroids are against the law without a prescription.
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#396598 - 12/14/07 05:05 PM Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era [Re: stlhead]
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implement the juice and aluminum bats and lets PLAY BALL!!!

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#396608 - 12/14/07 05:24 PM Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era [Re: stlhead]
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 Originally Posted By: stlhead
So are you saying they all had prescriptions and they need to go after the doctors? Anabolic steroids are against the law without a prescription.


Just because it's against the law... doesn't make it against the rules.

It isn't against the law in Venezuela, or the Dominican... why should those players be at an advantage due to the lax laws in their countries? Why should the some players be allowed to use HGH by Rx and not allow others to do the same? Baseball made it's bed in the late 80's and early 90's... now they need to sleep in it. I'd be fully satisfied if Buddy Boy came out and said 'hey, it wasn't against the rules... it was against the law, but the law is not the governing body of MLB. If any player was brought up on charges of trafficing a controlled substance MLB would have addressed the situation at the time. We're committed to cleaning up the game, but everything in this report is ex-post-facto. There'll be no stripping of records, or asterics, or any penalties to players named in the report... baseball is moving forward with a commitiment toward the integity of the game."

Frankly I think it's pretty stupid that all this went to Congress... they have better things to do, like figure out how to fund education for the children of this country, or get us the f#$& out of Iraq. ~josh



Edited by Metal Head (12/14/07 05:26 PM)
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#396610 - 12/14/07 05:34 PM Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era [Re: Metal Head]
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So sports stars shouldn't have to obey the laws in this country? Should Darryl Strawberry or Dwight Gooden have been punished?

It went to congress because congress is the overseer of MLB baseball and can pull baseballs Anti-trust exemption.
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#396619 - 12/14/07 05:47 PM Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era [Re: stlhead]
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Funny.... you failed to address the Rx issue. I'm not saying they shouldn't obey the law, we all should. What I'm saying is, this is all after the fact... so MLB and Congress doesn't have a leg to stand on here. It wasn't against the rules, PERIOD. If they want to risk their careers and jail time... so be it. It could be worse, they could be running dog fighting opperations. The only thing they're doing is screwing themselves. Oh, and IT WASN'T AGAINST THE RULES.

I don't see Congress getting involved in the NBA's affairs... not even when a ref gets busted for betting on games he officiated, and admitting to ties with the mafia. Guns, drugs, and thugs with millions... I'm much more concerned about that than a bunch of guys shoving needles in their ass just so they can throw/hit a ball harder. ~josh

PS... I hear you stlhead, it sucks that we as a society hold these guys (and athletes in general) in such high regard that they seem to get away with murder (Ray Lewis). It is unfortunate that the true heros in this country like police officers, firefighters, EMTs and educators don't get the recognition or financial compensation that they deserve. I'm just saying that baseball NEW WHAT WAS UP... and did nothing. Now they're throwing all these guys under the bus just to try and save face. I'm not buying it.
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#396666 - 12/14/07 09:39 PM Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era [Re: Metal Head]
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Amen to that!

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#396676 - 12/14/07 10:21 PM Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era [Re: Thrasher]
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"Funny.... you failed to address the Rx issue"
I haven't heard anyone claim they had a prescription.

The reason congress is involved versus the NBA or the NFL is that baseball is the only sport in the country with an anti-trust exemption granted by congress. It's the duty of congress to revisit that from time to time to determine if that's still warranted. Basically congess is an overseer of MLB.

Murder, rape, armed robbery aren't against the rules of baseball that I know of either.
Should Michael Vick have been suspended? Did he break team or NFL rules?

Should college players be suspended for off campus crimes?

Highschoolers?

I too think that the owners on down were well aware and probably encouraged it with a "I don't want to know" attitude but I think that if this is swept under the rug then it will die down and continue business as usual.
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#396758 - 12/15/07 01:57 AM Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: blue water pro

BTW, doesn't congress have better things to do, like finding some way to impeach Bush?


Congress? Are you kidding? Is that a joke?


Edited by John Lee Hookum (12/15/07 01:58 AM)
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