#402858 - 01/08/08 03:05 PM
Need Photo Snake River Steelhead
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Reverend Tarpones
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I'm working on a small blurb about the Nez Perce plans to gill net 61,000 steelhead from the Snake. I need a photo, preferably one of a dark fish, to illustrate my blurb.
Photo must be 800K or larger. I will give photo credit to whomevers photo I use.
Thanks.
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#402896 - 01/08/08 03:37 PM
Re: Need Photo Snake River Steelhead
[Re: Dave Vedder]
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Returning Adult
Registered: 02/14/07
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Loc: Central Washington
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Snake River Guide Service might be able to help you out. http://www.snakeriverguides.com/1(509)751-0410
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#402928 - 01/08/08 04:41 PM
Re: Need Photo Snake River Steelhead
[Re: Sol]
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River Nutrients
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Rollo makes an appearance ![bow](/forum/images/graemlins/default_dark/worship.gif) At least his fish make an appearance on here from time to time, wish he could figure out how to post ![evil](/forum/images/graemlins/default_dark/evil.gif)
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#402942 - 01/08/08 05:06 PM
Re: Need Photo Snake River Steelhead
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Reverend Tarpones
Registered: 10/09/02
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Thanks Tim . How did that fish cut? I'm thinking most Snake fish are not prime. I can't see how they could match one that has only been in a few days. I caught a bunch in the grande Ronde but didn't kill any.
Anyone have an opinion on the table quality of these fish. Will trh tribe find a market?
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#402965 - 01/08/08 05:31 PM
Re: Need Photo Snake River Steelhead
[Re: Sol]
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Reverend Tarpones
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Sure. You do it and we can split the $$$.
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#402978 - 01/08/08 05:39 PM
Re: Need Photo Snake River Steelhead
[Re: Dave Vedder]
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 10/23/03
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Of course fishermen from the Sound don't think that the fish caught in the Snake or any of its tribs are edible, but those Sound fishermen are used to seeing fish that are sometimes only hours from the salt. Many and I mean most steelheaders that fish the Snake and its tribs have NO experience with those "chrome" type fish. Believe me, I was one of them not too long ago. I too would love to see the Snake stay net free, but to form the argument that the Nez Perce will not find a viable market for these fish is naive. I do commend your effort though ![smile \:\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default_dark/smile.gif)
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#403155 - 01/08/08 09:00 PM
Re: Need Photo Snake River Steelhead
[Re: Sol]
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Registered: 02/09/00
Posts: 243
Loc: Pasco, WA
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I have caught a lot of fish that cut well until sometime in February. By cut well I mean that if filleted by someone who knows what they are doing, it would look 'good' packaged in cellophane in a store. Let me emphasize 'good', not like a fresh fish. We used to BBQ them once in a while, and they taste fine. Now...
...those fish are always hens, and not every hen cuts 'good'. There will obviously be tons of waste from this fishery.
I can't imagine who they're planning on marketing them to? Their casino?
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#403272 - 01/09/08 03:34 AM
Re: Need Photo Snake River Steelhead
[Re: backlash2]
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River Nutrients
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Dave, what are the treaty rights of the nez perce. After all these years, I dont get why now? That Judge in oregon is gonna have a fit.
Edited by Lead Bouncer (01/09/08 03:35 AM)
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#403297 - 01/09/08 10:57 AM
Re: Need Photo Snake River Steelhead
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Reverend Tarpones
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Dave, what are the treaty rights of the nez perce. After all these years, I dont get why now? That Judge in oregon is gonna have a fit. The tribes do have treaty rights to those fish. Challenges to the treaties have all failed. The treaties require among other things.: The tribe was granted the right to harvest steelhead in a 1969 decision by Judge Robert C. Belloni, who ruled that the treaty of 1855 reserved the tribes the right to fish at “all usual and accustomed places” In implementation of treaty rights the court held that: - States may regulate only when reasonable and necessary for conservation. - Fisheries can not be managed so that little or no harvestable fish reach upstream areas - Indians may be permitted to fish at places and by means prohibited to non Indians - The tribes are entitled to a fair and equitable share of the resource.
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#403328 - 01/09/08 12:31 PM
Re: Need Photo Snake River Steelhead
[Re: Dave Vedder]
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Registered: 12/16/07
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Well, I would imagine that with the salmon starting to show up in South America rivers more frequently in greater numbers they are going to start to realize they have been buying crap from the guys up here. Then that market will start to decline. The fact that the Nez Perce are wanting to net for the steelhead is a scare tactic I think. Although I am not sure for what, they are using it for leverage over something. I dont doubt that for a second, for what I dont know.
I have a buddy that should have a ton of steelhead pics from the Snake, I will see if I can get a hold of them for ya.
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#403339 - 01/09/08 01:04 PM
Re: Need Photo Snake River Steelhead
[Re: Dave Vedder]
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Smolt
Registered: 12/15/03
Posts: 85
Loc: Oly
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Anyone have an opinion on the table quality of these fish. Not so good...the hens can have some nice skeins though. Think that plays into the equation?
Edited by winterchrome (01/09/08 01:05 PM)
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#403425 - 01/09/08 04:18 PM
Re: Need Photo Snake River Steelhead
[Re: winterchrome]
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Eyed Egg
Registered: 01/09/08
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Dave :
I have fished and guided in the Snake and Salmon for over 40 years. If the Indians decide to net in the late summer and early fall the fish they take will look just like the fish taken below Bonneville at that time. It is the maturity of the fish not the time in fresh water that gives the fish poor appearance later in the year.... the fish we take in late August and Sept. are bright and the eggs immature just as if taken in the cowlitz or north fork......catch a summer run in the cowlitz in december and you have the same fish.....if the tribe chooses to fish I am sure they will do this in late summer and early fall when the largest migration takes place and the fish are in a better condition....glad I retired last year.
skip zapffe
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#403688 - 01/10/08 11:14 AM
Re: Need Photo Snake River Steelhead
[Re: heavyline]
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Reverend Tarpones
Registered: 10/09/02
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Loc: West Duvall
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Dave :
fork......catch a summer run in the cowlitz in december and you have the same fish.....skip zapffe Skip: Thanks for the input. You must know much more than I about the quality of the Snake River fish, but I do not believe a December Cowlitz summer run is of the same quality as a fresh winter run.. I think the time in fresh water does have an impact on quality as the fish must use stored body fat to survive in the river. None the less, I am hearing enough folks say the fish are of decent table quality that I will change my planned remarks about the edibility of those fish.
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