I would love to attend the meeting but unfortunatly I work saturday's

Tim

The Sky has met escapement but they look at it as a system whole. Throw the Pilchuck in the numbers and the system as a whole doesn't make escapement even though the Sky does.

What? Where are your numbers coming from? I would love to see it.

The Bios say the pilchuck is the only reason that the snohomish system is doing as well as it is. The Pill has been the bright spot for steelhead escapement of the 3 rivers. Maybe the bio was blowing smoke up my butt. I know one year the Pill got close to 2/3 of the entire systems escapement from what they told me.

By law they have to treat it as one system. This sucks I agree but it is what they have to work with.

JJ

Red areas indicate where fishing is good, blue indicates bad fishing.

Red indicates areas where folks get excited about fishing for catfish, sunfish, and bass.

Blue indicates areas where folks like to fish for challenging fish, ones that don't fight and taste like turds.

Fish on...

Todd

"Blue indicates areas where folks like to fish for challenging fish, ones that don't fight and taste like turds."

Apparently, the exception to that is chums...some people in the blue areas do like to eat fish that taste like turds...but they're mainly red state dudes in blue areas.

Fish on...

Todd

Yes ,
The PS closures were the original catalyst 7 years ago that brought about the formation of the WSC. While the WSC agreed the rivers should be closed in the name of conservation, what became questioned is the policies that brought us to that point...and have been working on ever since. What was interesting is when the Skagit/Sauk opened back up the following year we saw a lack of fire from the angling community even though the majority of the rivers were still closed, we were all happy to have something back (crumbs) and became complacent again. My hopes is that this issue will bring the fire back into the fold to inspire us to become more involved and help create change for the recovery of wild steelhead.

I hope many of you take your passion and plan to attend the Commission Hearing in February in Olympia send the message to the Commission we are loosing our runs of wild steelhead right before our eyes, on their watch, and their decisions need to send a message to WDFW that they are accountable andto brush away politics to develop the best conservation management plan for steelhead recovery.

PS: You can follow this link to some of the escapement charts for PS and other streams http://www.wildsteelheadcoalition.org/Repository/main.htm

Thats great. Half the people dont want to give Florida any credit and the other have want to move there for the great fishing.

Adding hatchery stock numbers to wild stock numbers dont change reality, only the nature of the lie. Who is they? what magical politician is going to get rid of gillnets? Thats like asking Novus to go out and sweep the roads.

Or we could raise the escapement level 2% each year.

Anyone that wants to take out their frustrations on this subject, I have a bunch of Canary Reed grass and Blackberries (in prime stellhead habitat) that I could use some help beating up this spring. check me out, make a difference, time is running out.

http://www.northshoretu.org

There are wild fish in the river right now, so close it now if they are so concerned about it.

Im not sure of this, but if they did that, wouldnt forgone opportunity kick in? I dont think the state cares if we fish or not, as long as we spend our money.

Im sure we are on the same side of the issue. But I havent seen any evidence to suggest that closing the river to anglers is the answer. The state will tell us, that increasing bycatch of native steel from 2-6% wont make the resource go extinct, but special regulations arent enough to sustain the run.

I never read about cut backs to the commercial harvest in the middle of the season.

I think that I'll be going.

Its done, an article in the Everett Herald today said the Sauk & Skagit will be closed during the normal catch & release season. This really sucks, although it mentioned that it may be only a one year deal.

Sure is sad and it sure sucks!

I think they told us the closure on the Sky was only until things improved. Of course, if you don't address the reasons to the decline things will never improve. Bottom line is we now have almost nowhere to fish in the prime big native season, and the few places we can fish will be overcrowded. This sucks azz.

This is really upsetting. I was just scheduling vacation days for this spring
Spring fishing for nates has become one of my favorite fisheries of the year. Guess I'll just have to put all those dreams on hold for now.

I agree with most of you it's not just this closure, but whenever something bad happens we ALWAYS get the short end of the stick. Someone with the ability hopefully can set something up to make ourselves heard. This post just took me forever to type than retype all the screwups, but i'll be glad to help and or participate.

Thats right Tworod.
So if a stock declines, Sporty's lose the resource and Tribes get a higher percentage of the fish.
I have been fishing, Seen Netters come down clean out a hole and leave in less than an a hour. Where do they go? To report there catch right?

Is the fact that Sportys are forced out, and they get a higher percentage, an incentive not to overfish?

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