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#426341 - 04/02/08 09:18 PM Global Warming. An edjumufugincation....
Neal M Offline
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Registered: 12/13/99
Posts: 2742
Loc: Bainbridge Island and Sappho, ...
Check out this link. Can't wait to see the replies \:\)

http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/GlobWarmTest/start.html

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#426357 - 04/02/08 11:29 PM Re: Global Warming. An edjumufugincation.... [Re: ]
sykofish Offline
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Registered: 12/25/07
Posts: 1492
Loc: Mulletville
Missed 2.

Al Gore would hate you for this.
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#426363 - 04/03/08 12:06 AM Re: Global Warming. An edjumufugincation.... [Re: sykofish]
LoweDown Offline
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Registered: 08/07/06
Posts: 1759
Loc: Forks, WA
yeah, yeah. the world is flat, etc.

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#426374 - 04/03/08 01:06 AM Re: Global Warming. An edjumufugincation.... [Re: LoweDown]
Neal M Offline
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Registered: 12/13/99
Posts: 2742
Loc: Bainbridge Island and Sappho, ...
I think its closer to back in the day when someone figured out the world was round \:\) That's the way science works though, and it shouldn't be swayed by popular beliefs. We have an impact, but maybe not as much as we think. One way or another, ma nature will find a way to squash us to balance things out \:\)
Stam you are hired!
I'm headed to the OP with my family this weekend. hoping to find a steelhead or springer if I can sneak away for the mornings!
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#426420 - 04/03/08 10:40 AM Re: Global Warming. An edjumufugincation.... [Re: ]
Sol Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 12/19/03
Posts: 7477
Loc: Poulsbo
I hear ya, I'm tired of freezing my ass off!

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#426422 - 04/03/08 10:53 AM Re: Global Warming. An edjumufugincation.... [Re: Neal M]
NOFISH Offline
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Registered: 03/15/00
Posts: 2952
Loc: Olalla, WA
Glad to hear you're back stateside Neal, you are due some time off!
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#426425 - 04/03/08 11:12 AM Re: Global Warming. An edjumufugincation.... [Re: NOFISH]
stlhead Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 6732
I think the term is Climate Change these day's which it's pretty obvious we are in weird weather patterns but I leave stuff like that to the scientists.
Anyone watch Jean Michael Cousteau Return to the Amazon last night? If I remember right 17% of the Amazon has been wiped out in the last 30 years and any given day 7,200 purposely set fires are burning to clear forest. Double whammy. Major polluting of the atmosphere while wiping out what cleans the atmosphere.
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#426453 - 04/03/08 12:38 PM Re: Global Warming. An edjumufugincation.... [Re: stlhead]
Irie Offline
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Registered: 11/26/06
Posts: 4317
Loc: South Sound
I'll be up at Mora this weekend. See ya up there.

It was an interesting test up until something caught my eye:

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"The actual exhaust emissions come from the smokestack, which is the tall skinny tower. Because modern technology makes it possible to remove much of the fly ash and sulfur before releasing smokestack gases to the air, smokestack emissons today are often almost invisible."


I dunno why a Geology website is involving itself with the Global Warming debate.

Here it almost seems like its saying Coal-fired Power plants are clean and harmless and non-polluting.


Hmm...
I suspect: Geology Website+'clean fossil fuel Power Plants'=Coal Power Industry?

AH-HA! Here it is!

The Website is brought To you by...*drumroll*

'West Virginia Fossil! '

Per US Dept of Energy Website:
 Quote:
"West Virginia is the largest coal-producing state in the region, and the second largest coal-producing state in the U.S.
...
When coal is burned as fuel, it gives off carbon dioxide, the main greenhouse gas that is linked with global warming. Burning coal also produces emissions, such as sulfur, nitrogen oxide (NOx), and mercury, that can pollute the air and water. Sulfur mixes with oxygen to form sulfur dioxide (SO2), a chemical that can affect trees and water when it combines with moisture to produce acid rain. Emissions of nitrogen oxide help create smog, and also contribute to acid rain. Mercury that is released into the air eventually settles in water. The mercury in the water can build up in fish and shellfish, and can be harmful to animals and people who eat them. The Clean Air Act and the Clean Water Act require industries to reduce pollutants released into the air and the water.


Now let see what The Fossil Fuel Industry has to say, shall we?

Ummm... not much:
 Quote:
The improvement in America’s air quality over the past 30 years has been remarkable and more can be done to further improve our environment while ensuring that our nation continues to have a reliable and affordable electricity supply.



I guess that's what to expect from Corporate Shills. The website that "test" comes from is devoted to the Coal Industry of West Virginia.

http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/panorama/panorama3.html

Look closer at where you get your information from.



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#426477 - 04/03/08 01:51 PM Re: Global Warming. An edjumufugincation.... [Re: Sol]
Mikespike Offline
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Registered: 01/02/08
Posts: 2544
Loc: Santa Rosa, CA
 Originally Posted By: Sol
I hear ya, I'm tired of freezing my ass off!


Sol, put your pants back on! ;\) I'm sure this is related to the new GF...
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#426479 - 04/03/08 01:57 PM Re: Global Warming. An edjumufugincation.... [Re: Irie]
Mikespike Offline
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Registered: 01/02/08
Posts: 2544
Loc: Santa Rosa, CA
I too enjoyed the clean air BS they were pushing. Forget the global warming crap, if you want to know what coal fired plants do to the environment, check out mainland China right now. Talk about acid rain, not to mention the many other environmental catastrophes they are creating over there. Oh yeah, that's where all our manufacturing jobs went, along with our acid rain and other pollution...

As far as the test, I got nine out of ten, but I was constantly looking over my shoulder to see if BlueJay was involved somehow Definitely some truth mixed with agenda/propaganda.
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#426503 - 04/03/08 03:08 PM Re: Global Warming. An edjumufugincation.... [Re: ]
Mikespike Offline
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Registered: 01/02/08
Posts: 2544
Loc: Santa Rosa, CA
Thanks Aunty! Unless I haven't figgered out yur sarcasm yet As long as you buy into the earth being older than 6,000 years, this is just a nice, calm, point in our climate. The only thing constant is change. Maybe Sol does have his pants on.....
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#426533 - 04/03/08 04:40 PM Re: Global Warming. An edjumufugincation.... [Re: ]
Sol Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 12/19/03
Posts: 7477
Loc: Poulsbo
Want to hear something funny? I was putting diesel in my truck at lunch in Silverdale and I was watching Shaqwanda's cute skinny little sister walking down the sidewalk. She was wearing these high-cut caprees so I was standin there smiling when she says "Hi." I said hello, and she walks over and asked me what I was doing, then she said she would give me a little "sumpthin sumpthin" if I had time to give her a lift to Poulsbo. I told here a couple months ago I might have taken her up on that, but I wasn't going to cheat on my new GF. She said, "That's coooo," and walks off.

Do I have a sign on me or what?

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#426541 - 04/03/08 05:06 PM Re: Global Warming. An edjumufugincation.... [Re: Sol]
Neal M Offline
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Registered: 12/13/99
Posts: 2742
Loc: Bainbridge Island and Sappho, ...
You are right Irie, it's always good to consider the source. The truth is though, very few people actually think about the problem and jump on the band wagon blind. Here is another link to some research by one of the worlds leading glaciologists. It's interesting that a guy that watches glaciers for a living would think this way. He was my professor in college, and most people now think he's a nut who gets paid by oil companies to think the way he does...... Good stuff \:\)



http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~dbunny/research/global/index.htm

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#426806 - 04/04/08 09:44 PM Re: Global Warming. An edjumufugincation.... [Re: Neal M]
ParaLeaks Offline
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Registered: 01/11/03
Posts: 10363
Loc: Olypen
Nobody knows more than Nobel Prize Winner Al Gore. I mean, C'mon!:roll eyes: \:\)
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#427066 - 04/06/08 06:54 PM Re: Global Warming. An edjumufugincation.... [Re: ParaLeaks]
VHawk. Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 08/26/04
Posts: 2744
 Originally Posted By: Slab Happy
Nobody knows more than Nobel Prize Winner Al Gore. I mean, C'mon!:roll eyes: \:\)


When dealing with politics, and huge sums of money, those who equivocate, those who might say "I'm not sure what the answer is to that question", they get eaten alive.

Al Gore thinks highly of himself, as would I, if I had come that close to losing the election for president. He still doesn't hold a clean burning torch to Dick Cheney. Our VP makes Trump look humble.

Irie, good job tracking the money.

Sol, check your forehead. Sometimes girls will tatt "OWNED" on a boyfriends forehead while they sleep.

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#427073 - 04/06/08 07:19 PM Re: Global Warming. An edjumufugincation.... [Re: VHawk.]
ParaLeaks Offline
WINNER

Registered: 01/11/03
Posts: 10363
Loc: Olypen
100% on the test here. Have I been brainwashed, or have others? hmmmm
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#427082 - 04/06/08 09:27 PM Re: Global Warming. An edjumufugincation.... [Re: VHawk.]
Irie Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 11/26/06
Posts: 4317
Loc: South Sound
 Originally Posted By: VHawk


Irie, good job tracking the money.


Heh...Thanks. I just happened to be sober & online at the same time for a change.

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#427268 - 04/07/08 09:18 PM Re: Global Warming. An edjumufugincation.... [Re: Irie]
ParaLeaks Offline
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Registered: 01/11/03
Posts: 10363
Loc: Olypen
Yes, it was a good trace, Irie. Always worthwhile knowing the source of information.

Worth keeping in mind also, is the fact that even an idiot can speak the truth.....and it doesn't make it less the truth.

IMO, the effort spent looking for untruths is honorable indeed, on the other hand, intentionally looking to NOT reveal the truth is cowardly and deceitful. Afterall, how can one be expected to make good decisions without the whole truth? hmmmm...appears we've circled full around once again. \:\)
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