#452310 - 09/09/08 11:46 AM
OP Border Patrol Roadblocks
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King of the Beach
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I saw this article in the Times this morning. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2008167700_forks09.htmlJust curious, has anyone had to go through these on there way out to Forks?
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#452313 - 09/09/08 12:02 PM
Re: OP Border Patrol Roadblocks
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Poodle Smolt
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Good.
The key word in the phrase Illegal immigrant is "illegal".
My family came to the US in 1907, so I am not against immigration, but it needs to be done correctly. Two of my grampa's brothers even had their names changed, while he retained his. They landed at Ellis Island, while he landed in Baltimore.
They assimilated and became productive US citizens. One of the brothers changed his name back to his original name, and the son of the other brother changed his name back as well.
There was no "press 2 for Slovenian" available.
Many of the ILLEGAL immigrants are criminals and gang members, while some are just folks looking for a better life. Well, do it the right way.
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#452314 - 09/09/08 12:03 PM
Re: OP Border Patrol Roadblocks
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The Chosen One
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I was amazed at how many migrant workers there are in forks. Stop by the Shell station at 7:00 am on a weekday.
They put out two big buckets of hot/taco sauce packets on the counter every morning at 7:00. Every morning, the contents of the buckets are emptied by 7:30.
I had no idea that the workers are there for the flower industry..picking ferns, and stuff like that. For the "filler" type plants that go in and around the flowers that Bucket has to buy FishGal!
They need a checkpoint in Woodland. I see the same thing down there.
In both places, I had to ask "What's up with that and why are they here and what are they doing"? I had no idea.
There's no reason to be "illegal" here in the US, especially if you are a migrant worker. Hell, they probably get better all around benefits than I do.
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#452319 - 09/09/08 12:19 PM
Re: OP Border Patrol Roadblocks
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April Fool
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I asked the same question a couple years ago to an employee at Thrift way, she said that they are hired to dig up stumps of trees that had been fallen.
I have no idea......anyone???
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#452323 - 09/09/08 12:37 PM
Re: OP Border Patrol Roadblocks
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Fry
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Funny... I asked the same thing a couple of years ago and the gal told me that most of them were loggers.
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#452325 - 09/09/08 12:43 PM
Re: OP Border Patrol Roadblocks
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Spawner
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Loc: Everett, WA USA
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Loggers?? Only if loggers use leafblowers and lawn mowers
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#452332 - 09/09/08 01:41 PM
Re: OP Border Patrol Roadblocks
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Dick Nipples
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The ones you see in line at the gas staion in the morning are Guatamalans...there to pick salal, I believe. If you pull up to get something to eat, and see the white vans parked outside, don't bother...there will be 20 folks ahead of you in line!
Fish on...
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#452342 - 09/09/08 02:35 PM
Re: OP Border Patrol Roadblocks
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Poodle Smolt
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The floral greens (alternative forest products) market is pretty big, and many operators purchase leases through the DNR and private timber companies like WEYCO, Simpson & Plum Creek to pick greens, so all is not illegal.
There is a fair amount of money in it, and it tends to be a cash business, so reporting is minimal from the worker standpoint, making it attractive to undocumented workers.
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#452349 - 09/09/08 02:49 PM
Re: OP Border Patrol Roadblocks
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April Fool
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Loggers?? Only if loggers use leafblowers and lawn mowers
lol
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#452351 - 09/09/08 03:51 PM
Re: OP Border Patrol Roadblocks
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River Nutrients
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If you pull up to get something to eat, and see the white vans parked outside, don't bother...there will be 20 folks ahead of you in line!
Fish on...
Todd Pull up to the Shell station to get something to eat? Beer, sandshrimp, and gas, that's *IT*
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#452353 - 09/09/08 04:30 PM
Re: OP Border Patrol Roadblocks
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The Rainman
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they need to have some of those road block down here on the harbor
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#452362 - 09/09/08 05:35 PM
Re: OP Border Patrol Roadblocks
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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Agreed.
Can't you guys do your f'n job without intruding on people who have nothing to do with your investigation?
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#452364 - 09/09/08 05:47 PM
Re: OP Border Patrol Roadblocks
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Spawner
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They should have probable cause to do those raids though. That's what I was thinking. I had to be in my best behavior while driving around there last week. fun fun fun
Edited by GreenRiver (09/09/08 05:47 PM)
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#452367 - 09/09/08 06:16 PM
Re: OP Border Patrol Roadblocks
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King of the Beach
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So, back to my original question. Has anyone personally gone through one of these roadblocks? Sounds like some may have.
I'm just curious what is all involved with it. ID required for all vehicle occupants, sniffing dogs?
The article states "agents usually ask drivers different types of questions to gauge their status in the U.S., including questions about citizenship." I love to see some video of that. Hell, there are plenty of US citizens who don't know jack about their own country.
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#452368 - 09/09/08 06:32 PM
Re: OP Border Patrol Roadblocks
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I'd be all for helping the illegals out.....
.....if they were columbian hookers. What did those Columbian hookers cost you in Panama?
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#452379 - 09/09/08 09:04 PM
Re: OP Border Patrol Roadblocks
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King of the Beach
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No warrants, at least none I know of. Lets just say I'm not a big fan of roadblocks
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