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#473146 - 12/13/08 07:31 PM Heisman
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OU's Sam Bradford should win this....based on raw stats.


But.....



Tim Tebow's a 5 Star General, and has my vote.



So......



That being said OU beats Florida in the Championship game. Not because OU's better but because Tebow can have any chick he wants....

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#473149 - 12/13/08 07:46 PM Re: Heisman [Re: Magicfly]
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Tebow +1. I hope anyway


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#473151 - 12/13/08 07:53 PM Re: Heisman [Re: TBJ]
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Besides, the winner should play Boise State, so everyone can watch the WAC attack, kick some a$$.

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Edited by Magicfly (12/13/08 08:41 PM)
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#473155 - 12/13/08 08:56 PM Re: Heisman [Re: Magicfly]
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bradford just took it! f' you tebow!!!

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#473156 - 12/13/08 09:04 PM Re: Heisman [Re: Magicfly]
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Winner Mr. Sam Bradford


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#473157 - 12/13/08 09:09 PM Re: Heisman [Re: mreyns_tgl]
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Originally Posted By: mreyns
bradford just took it! f' you tebow!!!






How do you really feel about it Mark? applause
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#473158 - 12/13/08 09:16 PM Re: Heisman [Re: TBJ]
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i hate tebow tom wink

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#473160 - 12/13/08 09:20 PM Re: Heisman [Re: mreyns_tgl]
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Fair enough doh thumbs
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#473164 - 12/13/08 09:40 PM Re: Heisman [Re: TBJ]
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Anyone who'd rather spend spring break visiting orphans in the Philippians....with his parents.....than banging chicks on Spring break, should come in 3rd.

get the [censored] out of here....

wink

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#473166 - 12/13/08 09:59 PM Re: Heisman [Re: Magicfly]
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Originally Posted By: Magicfly
Winner Mr. Sam Bradford


Mf


Yep Bradford earned it. Just as I expected. Go Sooners!
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#473183 - 12/13/08 11:52 PM Re: Heisman [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
Bradford is 1/16th Cherokee. Does that mean he is the nation's first Native American Heisman Trophy winner?


Not a first at Oklahoma. Remember Jim Thorpe? Every athlete that plays any sport at Oklahoma is greeted by a huge photo of him as they enter the Athletic Dormitory. His is larger than Bud Wilkinsons. My freshman year at Oklahoma we had a live Indian mascot. Within a year or two (at the demand of student body and falculty) it was ceased, because it disrespected Native Americans.

Go Big Red! banana


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#473196 - 12/14/08 02:09 AM Re: Heisman [Re: John Lee Hookum]
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Hey JLH, you never responded to my offer for a bet on the game? You have the advantage. Last time we played a big 12 team for a National Championship Nebraska kicked our asses. Come on where your team loyalty?
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#473226 - 12/14/08 02:13 PM Re: Heisman [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Hankster


Thorpe may have been from OK but he played college football at Carlisle University in PA. That was around 1911. The Heisman didn't come along until about 1935.....which takes me back to the original tongue-in-cheek question.

I am at a loss as to why a "live Indian mascot" could disrespect Native Americans, live or dead. Political correctness sometimes tramples the original intent and meaning of a mascot. And who is it that were offended? A poll of Native Americans finds that 85% are not offended by team names or mascots. Must have been the Honkeys that think Native Americans should be insulted.


Hank I mentioned Jim Thorpe, because at the time he was considered the best all around Athlete (Football, Olympics) ever to come out of the State of Oklahoma and was considered sports royalty throughout the State. A first for Indians (Native American) anywhere in sports during that era.

I think the mascot thing was related to the comparison of Indians (Native Americans) to Beaver, Bull Dogs, Alligators, Wild Cats, Long Horns..etc. beathead The issue was that Caucasian had never been, and would never be considered as a choice for mascot, because it was assumed that it would offend many Caucasians. An Oklahoma Caucasian mascot wearing a plaid shirt and tie, would not illustrate the viciousness or Savage of a wild, uncivilized, ferocious Indians (Native American) with Hatchet, War paint, Headdress, doing a war dance. sick Instead of fearing the Indians (Native Americans), we were in favor of promoting a fear of Badgers, Beavers, Bears and Cougars, and other vicious animals instead. Remember that at the time, Western Movies had created a very negative image of Indian (Native Americans). I also would not favor using an Eskimos, Mexicans, African Americans, or Aboriginals as mascots for the Sooners either.

I am not looking to get into a debate about mascots choices of other schools I didn't attend or had anything to do with...it's their business. It was our school, and that was the course of action we took at the time on the issue. However it didn't prevent Oklahama teams from kicking serious butt, without having an Indian (Native American) on the War path. The Sooner Schooner (horses and Chuck wagon) and cheerleaders, do an adequate job. That is unless we get penalized for excessive celebration, when the Chuck Wagon rolls out onto the field after a touchdown, in Bowl Game. mad


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#473229 - 12/14/08 02:41 PM Re: Heisman [Re: John Lee Hookum]
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Heisman winner's are (cursed) just 2-6 going into Championship Bowl games....

Gators smell blood now!

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#473235 - 12/14/08 03:10 PM Re: Heisman [Re: Magicfly]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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That is unless we get penalized for excessive celebration, when the Chuck Wagon rolls out onto the field after a touchdown, in Bowl Game.


You remember that game, too, huh? That might have been the best bowl game I've seen.

You should keep that wagon on the sidelines. smile
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#473248 - 12/14/08 04:44 PM Re: Heisman [Re: Dan S.]
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It would have been interesting to see what Tebow stats would have been if he played in the no D Big 12.
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