I am curious what peole think. should it be legal to the general public like alcohol??

Yes.

Why am I not surprised that Seastrike was the first to respond to this thread. And yes it should be legal.

Yep... and I don't even smoke it anymore!


While we're at it... can we make Percocet an over-the-counter medication too?

Convention Wisdom states that the The War on Drugs was really Reagan's way of sweeping the "Unemployment Problem" under the rug.

I almost never partake anymore.

Messes up my aim.

And not just my gun aim.

I don't have an issue with it.

I have no opinion on this matter.

That's 'cause it wouldn't change your behavior either way.

Aww, crap.

Zzzzzzing'ed again!

Yes. The War on Drugs has cost us billions and billions, and has garnered nothing in the way of benefits.

Fish on...

Todd

The government is so f#**ing backwards and upside down they probably dont even know their names. It should be legal without a doubt. It might just cut down the jail population by half and make some room for people that should be there.

Throw in prostitution and we could lower the jail population by three-quarters.

Weed is not the problem. Never has been, never will be except for our government.

Amen the jails and government is so screwed and backwards. The people that run those places should be in there instead of someone who smokes a little grass.

Yep. Back in college I had a few classes with guys from DOC looking to get degrees in the Criminal Justice field. Those guys were not only borderline retarded, they were callous and sadistic as well.

Those guys go to jail and know they will get right back out untill they go back in the next day, Biggest waste of tax payer money i have ever seen in my whole life when is it going to change probably never just waste as much money as they can and accomplish absolutely nothing just waste more money and have nothing good come of it. We must get rid of all the f***ing retarded morons running things and get the right people in there. I'm tired of seeing all the dumbest silver spoon fed retards running things and getting absolutely nothing done except eating dounuts and getting there paychecks and sitting on there lazy ass's with there whole hands up there ass. Lazy bastards. I would like to get in there and raise some hell. We need to get the good old boys running things that will bring some changes. They are all a bunch of heartless f***s yellow belly bottom sucking no good pussies. I need to go kill something now I"m so rilled up Id like to go spit in all of there faces and tell every bit of the government to go **** themselves and then some. Sorry for the meen post. I'm going to go kill all of the indian fish I can. Go get before someone else does. Down with the current government then the indians. Save our fish while we can. Save our fish one at a time maybe we will have a future fisheries like we should. Down with the sealions and nets one at a time, gone and goodfishing for everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tell us how you REALLY feel, willard...

Reason #1 why it isnt legal...... the Liquor and Tobacco Lobbies stand to lose massive bucks. What the tobacco industry needs to do is start pushing for legalization, then convert tobacco farms into weed farms.. Of course that means taxation on weed, but also revenue that can be utilized , as opposed to no taxes being realized because the dealers don't pay taxes. Weed legalized would become the drug of choice, making alcohol the #2 choice, worth more as an alternative fuel source. Just my Utopian dream......

I could go on and on I just really hate the government and especially the king count jail just had my first exp. there. I would like to get some of the power tripping pussies in a boxing ring and teach them a lesson they will never forget. make them drink out of a straw for the rest of there lifes and then some. But i wouold rather just go take it out on some fish and have some fun. To many people just dont care about a damn thing but themselves!!! Good luck fishing and fish on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sounds like it won't be your only experience in county jail. I'm sure they enjoyed having you there.

Not going again it was over a stupid traffic ticket I couldnt get to court in the snow I'm really a good stand up guy. Just get pissed off over stupid people because there is to many of them. Just a little riled up about it. It screwed up my fishing trip. There is just to many stupid laws for all the stupid little people out there. Fish on!!!!!

It should b e legal, it probably never will be. Looks like wildwillard might benefit from burning one or two and going back to sleep

If y'all think that our prisons are full of pot smokers, then y'all been smoking too much of it. Around here it's meth, and that crap is pretty scary.

I've said this before - according to the World Health Organization, American tobacco kills approximately 420,000 americans every year and approximately 3.5 million wordwide. This does not include the health problems created by smoking that are an incredible drag on our health care system.

W.H.O. also calculates that alcohol kills 110,000 americans every year - this does not include traffic deaths, just straight up alcoholism or alcohol poisoning.

These two drugs account for over half a million deaths in the U.S. alone. That is equal to all the americans killed during the entire Civil War!

But realistically, if pot were legalized, wouldn't that put a lot of Canadians and Native Americans out of business?

Yeah man leagalize it. While you are at legalize hemp so all of us smelly hippies from humbolt can have a job selling the clothes at earthdance and reggae on the river.

Funny how it was the #1 crop for our founding fathers then fell out of the top.......we get some jacka$$ that decides it should be illegal and it is the #1 crop again. It is a joke. I dont even smoke anymore and still think it is a joke. You dont smoke a bowl and go out to rob or murder someone. Quit chasing the pot pipe and get after the glass one.....that would be money better spent. More of uncle sam making regulations and laws to fine us and take more of our hard earned dollars. Remember....its for your own good. Protecting us from ourselves so to speak.

Just remember that all hard drug use starts with pot or was that breast milk?
Now I'm confused.

Mothers Milk leads to EVERYTHING....George Carlin.

Yes, it should be legalized. Damn Puritan retards who apparently control so much of our law making.

Although I'm poitically moderate, I'm a drug extremist. I'd legalize 'em all. Yes Aunty, I understand the employment implications, but that will sort itself out at least on the market side as providers go legit. The law enforcement side requires re-training for a lot of people to obtain a socially useful trade. I realize that total drug legalization will result in some people offing themselves, maybe more than already do, but if the gene pool is gonna' be cleansed, it might as well begin with those who think they have nothing better to live for.

W.F. Buckley's New Republic did an outstanding story on the failed drug war in the 1990s. At that time the illegal drug trade was estimated at 100 billion dollars a year, and law enforcement of drug laws cost local, state, and federal agencies 105 billion dollars a year. There is no indication that the ratio has changed, yet out gov't can't seem to move beyond this disgracing failure. WTF is that all about?

Sg

YES!

+2

Legalize marijuana for sure. I would rather be driven over white pass in a blizard with a driver who is baked and smoking a road joint, than a driver drunk slurping down a frosty road coldy. I wouldn't mind paying a tax if that was the deal breaker. I currently don't smoke but have in the past and might in the future. Also the drinking age should be lowered to 18. If a man or woman can potnetially be drafted to serve their country then they sure as hell better be able to buy a case of Schmidts. I hear the argument of well kids still in high school could buy for their friends. I again could live with if you're 18 you can only go booze at a bar. Legalize chron, 18 legal to drink, and out of left field wait for it......... bam legalize the prostitution.

Have we met?

I remember getting Schmidt-faced once or twice! mmmmmmmmmm, beeeer

Prostitution isn't legal? But I thought they said in the Panama thread......

Interesting article on MSN regarding the value of the crop in California.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28354324

You never know Irie. I have quite a history of debauchery. I could have met you over in Ellensburg while studying an ethich class called "You and the last quarter inch of your beer" mostly designed to engage the mind body and soul to relate to that portion and realize it needs to be loved/consumed as much as the first quarter inch of your coldy. Or we could have met in Yakima While I got s*** faced and baked studying @ Yakima Valley Community College mostly entry courses although courses conveying why limit a party to 50 when you can reachout to all branches of law enforcement to put out the flame so to speak. Man now this thread has me in that mode where I am getting enless waves of awesome memories of complete alcaholica. Good times. Great aliases. Half rack jack, maximus, pooski, Tap that keg fill my cup get me fuzzy, and real f***** up. Beautiful beautiful, beautiful keg, laying in the grass helping me get laid ok I should really open a word doc and write this then delete it to get it out of the system or I will get way out of control. Peace, Don't drink and drive

I agree with legalizing weed

if they did you probably wouldn't be able to buy any between 2 and 6 in the morning. I got a late start on the river yesterday because I was so stoned I forgot my beer at home and had to wait until 6 so I could have a brew to wash down my cotton mouth once my coffee is gone. as they say "dope is for Dopes"

Note to self: pack the boat and cooler before lighting up. LOL

Uh do what you need to do........... Weed makes people stupid............

But if I worked for Doritos I'd vote yes................

Keith

I was going to leave this thread alone but I must say that I'm very surprised...somewhat shocked at the support for legalizing pot. Having never even seen, let alone smoke a joint I don't think I have much of an opinion on the matter, although the idea of taxing the hell out of it makes sense to me. Maybe put that money back in fish habitat restoration?

During a tribal ceremonial fish release in Canada, I smelled something that I thought may have been pot burning like incense or something. Later, after talking to some co-workers, I found out it was legal in BC. So I may have smelled it once but I definitely tried to avoid inhaling.

Just as long as I can keep my shotgun, rifle, and 4 wheel drive...along with my fishing gear...

I love these Pot threads....

As a guy that has had to enforce these laws...The pot people are not the big problem for us. It's only one when they can't get along and rip each other off, or stay too baked to pay their taxes so I can keep getting extravagent wages.

For those of you who like to partake of a little cannabis, don't get behind the wheel. Do it while your're young, you will have plenty of time to pay taxes, get a mortgage, have .2 kids and a wife and be "responsible" (and clear your criminal record). If you get busted, don't whine.

If any of you has lived the life of a hard core doper, or has seen how they live, you dont want that. A little pot smoking within reason aint so bad (not that I partake, last weed was 35 years ago). And I have to laugh at the morons who think the jails are full of pot smokers....I guess they probably were at one time...whatever....the jail doesnt even have the capacity to hold non-serious offenses down here. It's primarily felons now. And those felonies are the ones worth keeping. I honestly wish more criminals would smoke pot and stay mellow and stupid.

Perhaps some of you want true anarchy...you know...where there is no central government, no police, and we all barter on a local level for our needs. That sound pretty great....probably better if I still smoked weed and was baked. Make sure you are at the next protest with those guys and try to assault the cops like they have been doing.

You'll get your money's worth of tax funded ass whoopin...lol

so by your logic ...anyone who smokes pot is stupid???? please explain yourself.
Inquiring minds want to know....

Tax the shiite out of marijuana and dump that money back into our economy.Legalize.

BTW I took every drug imaginable and I'm still smarter than 90% of the slapdicks I see in real life.

Well.......

It is obviously individually based. By the way, for those of you who like to attack the sterotyping of people on these kinds of issues, guess what?, they are stereotypes because they are generally true. Does a stereotype apply to everyone? No.

I believe if you read my post completely, I am referencing the ones who do it to excess. I had a roommate in college once who had to light the bong twice a day to feel right. He wasn't Mensa material.
I also have great sympathy for the people who need it for medical reasons.

It probably does not deteriorate your brain cells, although THC does store there, but if you think that smoking it to excess, or more than occasionally,
makes you more intelligent, you proved my point.

For the post regarding a big history of drug abuse and turning out just fine, you are the exception my friend. It has not been my experience that it is a great life plan.

BTW....I do think it should be legalized. It would allow us to focus on the drugs that do cause a stronger addiction and bad behavior.

Aunty,

I always enjoy your thoughts...(and I caught the typo, thank you) ..I think I was pretty clear. I agree there are some pretty smart people on this site, pot use or not. The pipe only fits if you have it jammed in your mouth all the time.
It's not like after five years here that I don't understand how a lot of people here feel about it.
You can imagine my point of view comes from a lot of experience on both sides. The only violence I have had associated with the stuff has been from dealer fights or rip-offs.

I think we are talking about two different things here. There is a destructive addiction, and then there is casual use.

All those who enjoy it, by all means, enjoy! You are all adults for the most part, if you get in trouble from it, remember....it's a choice.

TODAY'S HEADLINES:




And now here's the the other:



Anyone else notice what's going on here?

I saw that in this morning's paper and thought, "how screwed up can gov't. get?" It seems to me that one way to trim the state budget deficit would be to eliminate the State Liquor Control Board entirely. Stores could and would sell everything the liquor stores do and likely turn a better profit. I'm no anarchist, but I just don't think the LCB adds value to our state. Keeping track of which bars produce the most DUIs is not relevant. Different bars serve different numbers of customers, etc. And the responsibility is owned by the person who chooses to drink, not the vendor who sells the alchohol. That's twisted logic to play the game "let's shift the blame."

Sg

They're remodeling the Lacey liquor store.

Remodeling?

WTF does a liquor store need other than booze, shelving, and cash registers?

A drive-through lane

They remodeled the liquor store that used to be closest to me. It is now an Outback SteakHouse.

Yes, but are you smarter than 90% of the people in your hallucinations? ;)

I think the US should legalize the personal use of cannabis, both as a medicine and as a inebriant. Truth be told, it is far safer than alcohol overall, but like any substance has potential issues that it can cause.

I have had to use cannabis medically for nearly 2 years, and on a daily basis to control nausea and vertigo. No question it is one hell of a medication, however, I just recently had a surgery that fortunately corrected the disease (Meniere's), and honestly..I haven't touched it since, and hope I never have to touch another joint, ever. Also hoping I'll never have to barf again from vertigo, too!

Still, legalizing it would stop all the black-market crap, and the Mexican cartels would have to stop sending people into the US to destroy our forests (and they area). If nothing else, it would put an end to so much violence and misery that goes on due to it's illegality.

People in a free society should have a choice if they care to use it or not. Use it improperly and risk others safety (driving, etc.) and there should be penalties...otherwise, not.

Just the humble opinions of one who's seen it from all sides.

Mike

Glad you're doing better Mike. Hope all goes well from here on out. The laws against marijuana use are beyond stupid, either causing people to suffer unnecessarily or become illegal drug users.

Sg