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#485549 - 02/05/09 07:21 PM Gun Ban List
elk Offline
Parr

Registered: 02/26/07
Posts: 41
Loc: SW WA
This is what they were up to only a year ago. Now that they are in power...?


Gun Law Update by Alan Korwin,
Author Gun Laws of America Jan. 5, 2008

Gun-ban list proposed

Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the Democrats
have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under the Bush administration when
they knew full well it had no chance of passage (HR 1022, 110th Congress).
It serves as a framework for the new list the Brady's plan to introduce
shortly.

I have an outline of the Brady's current plans and targets of opportunity,
It's horrific. They're going after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms
dealers and statutes in an all out effort to restrict we the people. They've
made little mention of criminals.

Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun
bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process,
confiscated property, states' rights, free speech, right to assemble and
more, in addition to the Second Amendment.

The Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse):

Rifles (or copies or duplicates):
M1 Carbine, Sturm Ruger Mini-14, AR-15, Bushmaster XM15, Armalite M15,
AR-10, Thompson 1927, Thompson M1; AK, AKM, AKS, AK-47, AK-74, ARM, MAK90,
NHM 90, NHM 91, SA 85, SA 93, VEPR; Olympic Arms PCR; AR70, Calico Liberty,
Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU, Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR,
or FNC, Hi-Point Carbine, HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, HK-PSG-1, Thompson 1927
Commando, Kel-Tec Sub Rifle; Saiga, SAR-8, SAR-4800, SKS with detachable
magazine, SLG 95, SLR 95 or 96, Steyr AU, Tavor, Uzi, Galil and Uzi Sporter, Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle (Galatz).

Pistols (or copies or duplicates):
Calico M-110, MAC-10, MAC-11, or MPA3, Olympic Arms OA, TEC-9, TEC-DC9,
TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10, Uzi.

Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):
Armscor 30 BG, SPAS 12 or LAW 12, Striker 12, Streetsweeper.

Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):
A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has (i) a
folding or telescoping stock, (ii) a threaded barrel, (iii) a pistol grip
(which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see below), (iv) a
forward grip; or a barrel shroud.

Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10
rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rimfire rifles).

A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine,
and has (i) a second pistol grip, (ii) a threaded barrel, (iii) a barrel
shroud or (iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip,
and (v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more
than 10 rounds.

A semiautomatic shotgun with (i) a folding or telescoping stock, (ii) a
pistol grip (see definition below), (iii) the ability to accept a detachable
magazine or a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds, and (iv) a
shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits.

Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will:
Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any "semiautomatic
rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or
a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly
suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General." Note
that Obama's pick for this office (Eric Holder, confirmation hearing set for
Jan. 15) wrote a brief in the Heller case supporting the position that you
have no right to have a working firearm in your own home.

In making this determination, the bill says, "there shall be a rebuttable
presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or
any federal law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting
purposes, and a firearm shall not be determined to be particularly suitable
for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a
sporting event."

In plain English this means that ANY firearm ever obtained by federal
officers or the military is not suitable for the public.

The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn't have a
sporting purpose just because it can be used for sporting purpose -- is that
devious or what? And of course, "sporting purpose" is a rights infringement
with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by
domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause
of disarming the innocent.

Respectfully submitted, Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America
http://www.gunlaws.com/gloa.htm


Edited by elk (02/05/09 07:30 PM)
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#485563 - 02/05/09 07:51 PM Re: Gun Ban List [Re: elk]
Illahee Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 05/22/05
Posts: 3771
Funny, I own over 25 guns, not a single one of them made the hit list.
However I was considering purchasing the streetsweeper, it's a really sweet gun for pheasants.

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#485566 - 02/05/09 07:56 PM Re: Gun Ban List [Re: Illahee]
AP a.k.a. Kaiser D Offline
Hippie

Registered: 01/31/02
Posts: 4450
Loc: B'ham
LOL

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#485628 - 02/06/09 01:11 AM Re: Gun Ban List [Re: ]
huntncoug Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 05/22/07
Posts: 1616
Loc: Echo Lake
A little too much Orwell!
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#485651 - 02/06/09 03:16 AM Re: Gun Ban List [Re: huntncoug]
Dogfish Offline
Poodle Smolt

Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10878
Loc: McCleary, WA
I have 15 rifles and pistols that made that list.
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#485681 - 02/06/09 10:59 AM Re: Gun Ban List [Re: Illahee]
dewbie Offline
Spawner

Registered: 01/30/09
Posts: 849
Originally Posted By: freespool
Funny, I own over 25 guns, not a single one of them made the hit list.
However I was considering purchasing the streetsweeper, it's a really sweet gun for pheasants.


and cats that are crapping in your backyard

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#485692 - 02/06/09 11:55 AM Re: Gun Ban List [Re: ]
stlhead Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 6732
"they" didn't list my C4 so I'm good.
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#485694 - 02/06/09 11:57 AM Re: Gun Ban List [Re: ]
Illahee Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 05/22/05
Posts: 3771
Originally Posted By: AuntyM
Originally Posted By: Dogfish
I have 15 rifles and pistols that made that list.


I know you. I know what kind of person you are. If we were being over-run by terrorists, I'd want to be wherever you are...

But I bet liberal weenies that don't know you, think you are some kind of headcase that belongs behind bars.


It's my sincerest hope that you are half as dissatisfied over the next 4 years, as I was over the last 8, I can see your already afraid, isn't there a wilderness area that needs some roads, or a dam that needs to be built?
Surly there must be something to hate.
Enjoy the ride.

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#485703 - 02/06/09 12:13 PM Re: Gun Ban List [Re: Illahee]
Magicfly Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 01/13/07
Posts: 3359
Loc: Pasco Bulldog country
Marsha, Marsha, Marsha....right on time. rofl

I may just have to break out the Ole Potters a little sooner, than expected.... moose

Mf


Edited by Magicfly (02/06/09 12:14 PM)
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#485759 - 02/06/09 04:10 PM Re: Gun Ban List [Re: Magicfly]
Irie Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 11/26/06
Posts: 4317
Loc: South Sound
Dubya did say that if the AWB came up for renewal he'd happily sign it.

Don't forget the Ban his daddy signed into law...
doh


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#485919 - 02/07/09 12:37 AM Re: Gun Ban List [Re: Irie]
Fast and Furious Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 12/30/07
Posts: 3116
East coast moderates will screw you every time.

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#485927 - 02/07/09 01:14 AM Re: Gun Ban List [Re: Irie]
Oregonian Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1765
Originally Posted By: Irie
Dubya did say that if the AWB came up for renewal he'd happily sign it.



If you listen long enough you'll hear someone say,"I'll eat my hat"...same-same.

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#485991 - 02/07/09 07:43 PM Re: Gun Ban List [Re: ]
huntncoug Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 05/22/07
Posts: 1616
Loc: Echo Lake
Stop worrying the Dems gave up on gun control a long time ago.
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#485996 - 02/07/09 08:43 PM Re: Gun Ban List [Re: huntncoug]
Dogfish Offline
Poodle Smolt

Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10878
Loc: McCleary, WA
Originally Posted By: huntncoug
Stop worrying the Dems gave up on gun control a long time ago.


Some other good ones...

"I'll respect you in the morning"
"I love you"
"Why would I look at another woman, especially that young one with the outstanding breasts?"
"No, I won't come in your mouth"
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"Give me the anger, fish! Give me the anger!"

They call me POODLE SMOLT!

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#486239 - 02/09/09 02:22 AM Re: Gun Ban List [Re: ]
MrOlearhy Offline
Smolt

Registered: 01/07/07
Posts: 98
Loc: Western, WA
The check is in the mail.
No honey that dress doesn't make you butt look big.

I don't care what party they come from they lie, period.

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#486240 - 02/09/09 02:32 AM Re: Gun Ban List [Re: MrOlearhy]
Dogfish Offline
Poodle Smolt

Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10878
Loc: McCleary, WA
It's not the dress.
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"Give me the anger, fish! Give me the anger!"

They call me POODLE SMOLT!

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