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Mf

Jeeebuz...I see that pic of Savage, and the first thought in my brain is...

whatagoddammedmotherfuckinselflovingidioticasswipe

Fish on...

Todd

What kind of options did spellchecker offer for THAT one, Todd?

Hoo boy, is that a load or what?????

I'm curious about stkhead's statement about Reagonomics not working?????? Reagan inherited double digit inflation, interest rates in the 20% range, a demoralized country, and turned it all around. What didn't work?????

I am a conservative, but the only thing I detest is idiots, both right and left. I put Limbuagh and Beck (who is extremely irritating to just watch, much less listen to) in exactly the same boat as stkhead, kookentuk kid, erie, gohardley, toddy and other idiots, both left and right. I'd love to see all of them, left and right, floating around together in a small boat, on a big ocean. (I'd even throw in Ann Coulter for everyone to hit on.)

I admire liberals, and conservatives, who can articulate their positions with clarity, not a bunch of dismissive bullsh!t statements about being 'independent' or arrogantly dismissing any other point of view.

As a conservative, I drive small, fuel efficient cars. I try to raise as much of my own food as possible. I plant a lot of trees for future generations. I don't believe anyone needs a salary of more than $1 million. I don't discuss my sex life, and I don't want to hear about any one else's, either. I believe global warming/cooling is caused by natural cycles. As a human race, we need to live a lightly as possible on the land, but I believe that there is a tremendous amount of public energy being wasted on the debate over global warming. Make the debate about simply being kinder to the earth and I'll buy into it.

I believe Jimmy Carter was a good man, but surrounded himself with inept people, Ronald Reagan put the country back on track after the malaise of the Carter years. GHW Bush was no Reagan, and was bland as a president. Bill Clinton was actually a pretty good president, particularly from an economic perspective, despite personal moral failings. GW Bush suffered from the same failings as Carter. I believe he was a good man who meant well, but surrounded himself with people who had agendas that he failed to control.

Obama? Who knows? I wish him the best, but I look at his policies with an eye to history and FDR. FDR's policies did not pull the nation out of the depression, but they did re-align public policy in this country from his tenure to the present. Some of that realignment is good, some is bad. I look for the same from Obama. I think the stimulus/bailout packages are likely to fail, but he is likely to succeed in pushing the U.S. further toward a socialistic society. I would prefer to see the economics succeed and the socialism fail, but I don't think that's what will happen.

Grade wise, I give Carter a C, Reagan an A, GHW Bush a C, Clinton an A, GW Bush a C-, maybe even a D, due to two things, poor economic policies and Iraq.

I've said what I admire, now on to what I enjoy: Yanking the chains of idiots who can't articulate, in an intelligent way, their political/life beliefs.

There, I hope that pi$$es everyone off, both left and right.

Alan, this makes too much sense, what's the catch?

So I take it massive spending and massive debt are good conservative principals? Isn't that the very "big govt" conservatives claim to be a liberal principal? If you do your homework you will find that most reforms, often attributed to Reagan, were actually begun under Carter. Remember unemployment reaching almost 11% two years into his term? Raised Social security taxes and the instigator of borrowing from, and jeopordizing, the social security trust fund.
I actually voted for Reagan his first term. Then voted against him his second when I saw what he was all about. A mindless puppet in my opinion who screwed the middle class.

"As a conservative, I drive small, fuel efficient cars. I try to raise as much of my own food as possible. I plant a lot of trees for future generations. I don't believe anyone needs a salary of more than $1 million. I don't discuss my sex life, and I don't want to hear about any one else's, either. I believe global warming/cooling is caused by natural cycles. As a human race, we need to live a lightly as possible on the land, but I believe that there is a tremendous amount of public energy being wasted on the debate over global warming. Make the debate about simply being kinder to the earth and I'll buy into it."

So much in there that will earn you the liberal tag.

I love revisionist history, Its a great thing.

"I love revisionist history, Its a great thing."

Yup you've mastered it.

And you just blew your rule #1
"who can articulate their positions with clarity, "

Fixed for ya, since we all love revisionist history.......

I was talking about positive reforms. Anything negative under Reagan is attributed to Carter by tools like you. Although the economic stagnation was ten years long back to Nixon.

WTF,
I love revisionist history even more... You now know my #1 rule even though I never knew it. It must be great being a grade A liberal blowhard Jackass, kind of like being a weather man.. Except when you tell a weather man its raining outside when he's saying sun, you take him outside show him the rain and the arguments over.. Where as you take a A liberal blowhard Jackass and put him in the rain, its still sunshine to him and on the off chance he agrees with you its raining it will then turn into a 20 minute diatribe why its all a conservatives fault.

Does anyone think the "spending" arguement is beneficial to the present regime?

Spending to cure spending.....lovely.

We're NOT spending to cure spending though Slab... we're spending to try and keep unemployment out of the 25% range that it was in back in 1930...

We've ALREADY gone the "tax cuts for the rich" route... yet here we are?

Yes, Reagan cut taxes in the 80's and it helped the economy recover... but the top-end marginal rates were extremely high back then. They're at about 35% now. How much lower do you think they should be for multi-millionaires?

4Salt-

You are such a ninnie! "Everybody" knows that if you raise taxes for millionaires, they'll quit working to avoid paying taxes. What a maroon!

4Salt,
How high do you think it should be? And I love how these people talk about giving tax cuts to big oil, microsoft and the like when they talk about it. I will tell you for sure I am not big oil or bill gates. 250,000 is cut for husband and wife. Take no account of 12years of education for each me and my wife and 2,000,000 debt. 35% is plenty for the fed to take from us as we will be 50 before we get out of debt. Then they take payrole, SS, L&I, health insurance, capital gains, and all the other B.S.
You want to tax big oil because they got 300 bil in profit, go ahead. But dont tell me that I am some rish SOB and dont pay my share when half the country pays nothing and I give over a 1/3 of all I make now. That arguement is old and tired. We are not all "multi-millionaires" living on the beach in Cape Cod. Not only big oil and corp fat cats get hit by this tax hike and if you dont.....Good for you, but if you did you would sing a different tune and 35% is plenty for me to pay.