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#507884 - 05/11/09 01:30 PM Re: Your governor did this.. * [Re: ]
EnglishPete Offline
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Registered: 03/13/09
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Originally Posted By: Kanektok Kid
All three of his crimes were for snatching elderly women's purses


Simpletons. Get rid of the old ladies.
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#507921 - 05/11/09 04:16 PM Re: Your governor did this.. [Re: ]
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I wish I could remember the landmark study done in the 40's, with a follow up study done 10 years later, that determined what percent of the population is responsible for "hard core" crime. Basically, a small percent of society is responsible for most serious crime. The following article is really good, I hope all of you read the whole thing.

Also, approximately 1 in 25 people are a sociopath, so take that into account when talking about "criminals".

http://blogs.psychologytoday.com/blog/th...divism-rates-go
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#507949 - 05/11/09 05:44 PM Re: Your governor did this.. [Re: ]
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Aunty-

Watch out! I put split shot in my mouth all the time as a boy while fishing, so I might go antisocial anytime now! grin

Lead f's people up, no doubt about it. It is not the sole cause of creating sociopathic people, but more importantly, there is no cure for being a sociopath. Where do we go from here?
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#507968 - 05/11/09 07:00 PM Re: Your governor did this.. [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: AuntyM
They can stay locked up. Thing is, "they" are pretty good at determining who is a sociopath these days and habitual offenders are not all sociopaths, but it's OK for you to believe what you read.


Oh, I'm not saying all criminals are sociopaths, just that about 3-4% of the population are sociopaths. Then again, it would explain Wall street and D.C.
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#508029 - 05/11/09 10:15 PM Re: Your governor did this.. [Re: Mikespike]
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Originally Posted By: Mikespike
Also, approximately 1 in 25 people are a sociopath,
Coincidently, that is the same ratio of Americans with NRA memberships.
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#508093 - 05/12/09 08:45 AM Re: Your governor did this.. [Re: ]
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So how do they know when a person that beat up old ladies is rehabilitated?
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#508106 - 05/12/09 09:51 AM Re: Your governor did this.. [Re: ]
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Need I remind you that he had 16 interactions with the court system? This was no accident.
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#508142 - 05/12/09 02:00 PM Re: Your governor did this.. [Re: Jerry Garcia]
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Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
So how do they know when a person that beat up old ladies is rehabilitated?


After he passes the GED in prison and is then educated enough to scam them out of their life savings over the phone.
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#508146 - 05/12/09 02:07 PM Re: Your governor did this.. [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: AuntyM
Originally Posted By: Dogfish
Need I remind you that he had 16 interactions with the court system? This was no accident.


So, email Carlson and ask HIM why he changed his mind! There has to be circumstances here that caused him to support allowing this guy out.



maybe the grinch "encouraged" him to do so...

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#508164 - 05/12/09 03:24 PM Re: Your governor did this.. [Re: dewbie]
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Registered: 06/30/04
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Loc: Silverdale, WA
I had several traffic tickets in the past but I have always paid my ticket/fine in whole and on time. I doubt those count as 'Interactions with the court system".

So since it would take felony convictions to qualify for the 3 strikes system, who cares if they were automobile (traffic) related. The fact is, it is still 3 felonies. Like already stated before, I doubt the only crimes he ever commited were the ones he was convicted for, it just happends to be the only times he was caught.
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#508179 - 05/12/09 05:35 PM Re: Your governor did this.. [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: AuntyM

Except for one thing... the felonies he committed are apparently no longer part of the 3 strikes felonies used to sentence life in prison. If he committed those same felonies today, he would not have triggered the 3 strikes law.


Sooo, no conjugal visits? CRAP!
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#508216 - 05/12/09 09:47 PM Re: Your governor did this.. [Re: RichardSimmons]
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So when laws or sentencing guidelines change, does the legal system routinely adjust inmates sentences to meet the new criteria?
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#508283 - 05/13/09 08:30 AM Re: Your governor did this.. [Re: ]
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If you can't do the time don't do the crime.
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#508379 - 05/13/09 03:50 PM Re: Your governor did this.. [Re: Jerry Garcia]
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BWP has a point. Sometimes the crime doesn't make sense if punishment ought to fit the crime. 26 states with a law against adultery? Not that I'm advocating, but society oversteps its bounds at times with laws that are not relevant to the purpose of society.

But if the law makes sense, then throw 'em in the pit.

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#508404 - 05/13/09 05:55 PM Re: Your governor did this.. [Re: ]
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If they are dumb enough to do it a third time knowing the consequenses, why not? Better that they kill somebody the sixth time they are DUI?
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#508407 - 05/13/09 06:05 PM Re: Your governor did this.. [Re: Jerry Garcia]
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I think voting should fall under three strikes. All Bush voters have two strikes. Better be good from now on.


Edited by stlhead (05/13/09 06:05 PM)
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#508428 - 05/13/09 07:26 PM Re: Your governor did this.. [Re: stlhead]
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 13434
Originally Posted By: stlhead
I think voting should fall under three strikes. All Bush voters have two strikes. Better be good from now on.


OK now, that was funny.

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#508434 - 05/13/09 07:49 PM Re: Your governor did this.. [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: AuntyM
Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
If you can't do the time don't do the crime.


Does that apply to felony drunk driving? Should we lock repeat offenders up that have had 3 convictions for DUI, for the rest of their lives????


Very few people beat alcoholism. Yes, they should be removed from the playpen. If you lose a family member to a drunk driver, you'll feel the same about locking them up, especially when they killed your family member after several DUI's.

http://www.dui.com/dui-library/california/penalties-fines/new-dui-law

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