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#525306 - 08/04/09 08:55 AM cash for clunkers disclaimer
Jerry Garcia Offline



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Agreeing to the disclaimer between the site and the dealer site actually makes your computer, and the network it is on the property of the US Government:

“This application provides access to the DoT CARS system. When logged on to the CARS system, your computer is considered a Federal computer system and is the property of the U.S. Government. Any or all uses of this system and all files on this system may be intercepted, monitored, recorded, copied, audited, inspected, and disclosed to authorized CARS, Dot, and law enforcement personnel, as well as authorized officials of other agencies, both domestic and foreign.”



Good thing Bush and his intrusion into others affairs is gone.
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#525317 - 08/04/09 11:32 AM Re: cash for clunkers disclaimer [Re: ]
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there goes Thursdays

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#525318 - 08/04/09 11:43 AM Re: cash for clunkers disclaimer [Re: chasbo]
stlhead Offline
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At least you had the option to not participate this time.


Edited by stlhead (08/04/09 11:43 AM)
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#525320 - 08/04/09 11:48 AM Re: cash for clunkers disclaimer [Re: stlhead]
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Aren't all working Americans particpating at this time? Billboard last evening at a local dealership was flashing "Free Government Money" foul
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#525327 - 08/04/09 12:34 PM Re: cash for clunkers disclaimer [Re: NOFISH]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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So Jerry..............let's tell the class the difference between CHOOSING to agree to the gov't intrusion into your computer (as a DEALER participating in the C for C deal), and the gov't just DECIDING that you need to be spied on with no consent given by you..

[censored] o dear you're a Bush ballwasher sometimes.
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#525330 - 08/04/09 12:58 PM Re: cash for clunkers disclaimer [Re: Dan S.]
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Not washing any balls, I just think that we have the same horse, different color.
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#525344 - 08/04/09 01:38 PM Re: cash for clunkers disclaimer [Re: Jerry Garcia]
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Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
Agreeing to the disclaimer between the site and the dealer site actually makes your computer, and the network it is on the property of the US Government
But doesn't the "if you're an innocent law abiding citizen, then you have nothing to worry about" rule apply here as well?
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#525356 - 08/04/09 02:23 PM Re: cash for clunkers disclaimer [Re: goharley]
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Hey Jerry, where is that link that shows that?

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#525359 - 08/04/09 02:44 PM Re: cash for clunkers disclaimer [Re: chasbo]
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Originally Posted By: chasbo
there goes Thursdays


why do you think i stopped posting those? wink i coulda gone to jail for some of the stuff i saw while trying to provide quality entertainment rofl

cash for clunkers - sounds like that one guide everybody rags on on here for cheating people grin
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#525361 - 08/04/09 02:52 PM Re: cash for clunkers disclaimer [Re: Mikespike]
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Kaiser, here's the only link you need to read about it:

Don't Believe Everything You Read on the InterWebz

Lemme guess, JG...you heard it on Fox, or got it in a typical right wing email list?

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#525365 - 08/04/09 03:12 PM Re: cash for clunkers disclaimer [Re: Todd]
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This is the site that I copied from
http://www.hobokensandwich.com/2009/08/cash-for-clunkers-ultimate-big-brother.html


I just googled "cash for clunkers disclaimer"

The disclaimer was removed yesterday to be rewritten.
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#525367 - 08/04/09 03:16 PM Re: cash for clunkers disclaimer [Re: Jerry Garcia]
AP a.k.a. Kaiser D Offline
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So, you must have heard about the disclaimer somewhere that made you want to google that. I'm guessing... Crazy Beck?

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#525368 - 08/04/09 03:23 PM Re: cash for clunkers disclaimer [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
Jerry Garcia Offline



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The Snopes site basically talks about a poorly worded disclaimer and that lawyers say that it would be unconsionable for the gov to do what the disclaimer says. Disclaimer was real and I'm not sure what the reason for the "poorly" worded disclaimer was. Seems to me the disclaimer was to the point.


Just because Beck is a little crazy doesn't mean that he stumbles on some truth.


Edited by Jerry Garcia (08/04/09 03:24 PM)
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#525370 - 08/04/09 03:26 PM Re: cash for clunkers disclaimer [Re: ]
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Cash for clunkers isn't about energy savings, it's about stimulus.
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#525372 - 08/04/09 03:28 PM Re: cash for clunkers disclaimer [Re: ]
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How about cash for ct scans?
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#525377 - 08/04/09 03:33 PM Re: cash for clunkers disclaimer [Re: Jerry Garcia]
AP a.k.a. Kaiser D Offline
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Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia

Just because Beck is a little crazy doesn't mean that he stumbles on some truth.


With the exception of "a little", I wholeheartedly agree.

It is my understanding that the disclaimer was never even on the consumer side of the site. It was for dealers that are submitting confidential customer information related to the program.

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#525390 - 08/04/09 04:20 PM Re: cash for clunkers disclaimer [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Posts: 16958
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Beck is a f'n goat.

His first claim was that this disclaimer was on the cars.gov public site, when in reality it was on the site for dealers participating in the program.

That didn't stop all the talk-radio donkeys from running with Beck's statement without ever checking if it was valid, though.

But that's what they do.

And the whole time Beck was running his hole, nobody was talking about how KBR has been poisoning our soldiers in Iraq with hexavalent chromium. Or that the DOW hit 9200 yesterday. Or that we're still fighting two wars. Or that soon our health care expenditures will equal 20% of our GDP. Or about a bazillion other things that matter.

Pathetic.
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#525391 - 08/04/09 04:46 PM Re: cash for clunkers disclaimer [Re: Dan S.]
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Beck actually makes Hannity look somewhat sane...and that takes some doing...a lot of it, actually.

The actual part in the disclaimer, both the earlier and later writings of it, never had anything whatsoever to do with the premise of this thread, which is that the Gubmint will now own your computer and files if you sign up.

Getting that information from FoxNews is about as smart as getting information about garbage collection by watching Oscar the Grouch on Sesame Street...remember, they are the network who went to court and won on the argument that they are under no obligation to actually tell the truth, even when they know what they are saying is untruthful.

The very mention of Beck just raised the wingnut quotient on this thread from a rather pedestrian 7/10 to at least a 9.5...

Fish on...

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#525400 - 08/04/09 05:20 PM Re: cash for clunkers disclaimer [Re: Todd]
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The thing that I'm most blown away by in this healthcare debate is how otherwise intelligent, rational people can be so completely duped by wingnut propaganda?
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#525418 - 08/04/09 06:08 PM Re: cash for clunkers disclaimer [Re: 4Salt]
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The original premise of the thread was a copy of the disclaimer that I thought was odd. I don't listen to "right wing conservative radio", never heard Beck on the radio or watched his TV show, I see him on Fox at 4 in the morning one day of the week for 5 minutes.
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