Because it is the opposite of what the Democratic President wants.

For both parties, defeating the other party has become more important than solving problems. It sucks.

4-Salt,

Cuz right wingers are pro-business even if it's against their self interest. "What's good for General Bullmoose is good for the USA!" Also, they may hold stock in a profitable insurance company, or sit on the Board of Directors of one, etc. Or they could just be irrational and stupid. Remember, always check out the easiest explanation first.

Sg

Yes, it does get delivered every day. Tomorrow we find out if my 76 yo. dad has Leukemia..odds are high that he does, but I'll be damned if I'll accept it till all the test results are in.

BTW, I DO understand cost/benefit. With adults we can [generally] make a rational decision..ie: "Is it worth going through the treatment?"

My dad's already decided he will not undergo chemo and radiation. Not because of money, but just because he's decided that at his age he would prefer not to go through all that misery. Fortunately, there is another option that has presented itself that is worth a shot.

ISO

I can understand the wealthy, investor-class, corporatist Republicans supporting the insurance oligopoly Salmo.

I was thinkin' more of the regular schmo, high school educated, lower middle-class folk that showed up at the healthcare town halls carryin' "Obama is Hitler" signs... and tellin' the Congress people, "keep the government outta my Medicare"!

There is a real disconnect there...

Mike... I wish your dad well.

Seems like ALL Republicans think they are the "wealthy, investor class, corporatist"(s)...

Apparently you are so self-absorbed with dillusions of grandeur to realize that YOU are the one thinking about human life as a dollar sign $$$$$$$$.........completely antithetical to your post.

But blame the corporations always goes over well with the stupid and the democrats....but I repeat myself.

I'm pretty sure any "buyer's remorse" has it's roots in the perception that Obama hasn't pushed harder for single payer health care and we are not withdrawing from Iraq. He has not pushed the progressive agenda that he ran on hard enough.

But they still built the bridge...correct?

Or did they decide early in the planning stages that since it would eventually fail.....ahhh f.ck it.... it's gonna' break anyhow so we shouldn't waste any money on building it?

I didn't say anything about Afghanistan and if you pay attention to the news Obama is saying we don't need single payer to fix the system. I just read the article today. Just for the record I'm not a fan of Obama. IMHO the system weeds out any candidate might disturb the special relationship the big corporations and Wall Street have with our government, that is they own it.

Yup! Congress is being SO stealthy in fact... they're writin' bills with no public option and mandated coverage that is nothin' but a pure giveaway to the insurance companies.

All of this of course is a smokescreen to cover the REAL bill which is buried in the fine print on page 1143.

Yer a regular Sherlock Holmes for sleuthin' that out Hank!

Um, yeah.

That's the way it works, right?

Are Red Herring Skanks ?

Hank, I think KK is referring to Red Label Herring.

Robo-Bartender

A popular bar had a new robotic bartender installed. A guy came in for a drink and the robot asked him, "What's your IQ"? The man replied, "130".
So the robot proceeded to make conversation about physics, astronomy, investments, insurance, and so on.
The man listened intently and thought, "This is really cool".

Another guy came in for a drink and the robot asked him, "What's your IQ?" The man responded, "100." So the robot started talking about the weather, football, baseball, action movies and so on. The man thought to himself, "Wow, this is really cool".

A third guy came into the bar. As with the others, the robot asked, "What's your IQ?" "I'm not too sure," the man replied, "but someone told me that it's about 70." "That's cool,' the robot said. "So, what's the Republican Party up to these days?

Um, yeah.

You're singing to the choir, my friend.

But I thought I remembered that Congress writes the laws, and the President either signs them, or vetoes them.

I've forgotten a lot of sh!t from school, though.

I haven't been following along much, so maybe someone could fill me in.......

Who's still touting the "If you like your insurance plan you can keep it" spiel?

And the mandatory enrollment....how's that settling in?

How about the "risk pools make things cheaper" slant working out?

Here's what I think. If you don't have insurance now, you ain't gonna voluntarily buy it...even at a reduced rate, because you already spend all your money on other shlt. BUT you could end up with insurance anyway, because "I said so" and you will have to figure out how to readjust your monthly expenditures.....so screw you, you are now insured. Sorry it ain't gonna be free if you're working.....someone lied to you.

And if you are working and have insurance, if it is any kind of decent plan at all, you will lose in this deal....big time. Why? because your boss is not about to negotiate a deal to maintain the cost of your present plan when a cheaper one (and "cheaper" is a high point of negotiations now) is available. So "yes" you could keep your plan, but that's like saying, "Sure, you can afford a 747".....not for long, bud. So now that you no longer have the plan you used to, but have a similar, cheaper plan shared by millions more, you can count on longer delays for treatment, consultations, and every other thing associated with mass medical treatment. Oh, and many more mistakes as well....count on it. Happens any time there are assembly lines.

Remember KK saying how the wonderful, amazing risk pools could make the cost of insurance so much cheaper? Remember how I made the statement that risk pools are for normal participants.....not NEEDY participants? Hail, enter "mandatory enrollment" (were there not claims initially that this would not happen?)....to get money from those who don't need insurance because they are presently healthy and young (and perhaps foolish). But their money's good enough to fix Syphillis Sam's rotting appendage, or deliver Annie Squats M. Outs 12th nipple-hanger. And now neither has to wait for emergency care, they can just make an appointment for every ache, pain, cough, itch, or bump they encounter.

Same ol' story......no consequences for unacceptable choices. It's the Leftist way. No point in acting responsibly if their is no penalty for not.
A hand up is different than a hand out, but the line has been blurred by enabling do-gooders. Which isn't so bad by itself, but now they want me to pay for it. I say, chase your dream on your own damn nickel. Get a job and produce something, or starve in the gutter....your choice.


Ahhhhh

Nice you and retoad like to call these errors out.. Funny shiit right there...

bwp.....I never said that young people shouldn't buy insurance...hence the "foolish" remark. I implied that young people "think" they don't need insurance because they are young and bullet proof. And they are, for the most part (it worked for me). The point was that healthy people are forced to contribute to the health insurance "pie" in order for the cess pool....er risk pool to be viable.

As far as corruption in the health insurance game goes.....we don't disagree so much.....it exists big time and everybody knows it and something needs to be done about it.....

Me, I'd just cut their profit margin and audit the Hell out of them to make sure they comply......you know, the same way we do oil companies......

As far as your bride goes.....I couldn't be more saddened. You both have my sincerest hopes and will be included in my prayers.

As a society, medical costs are one of the most vexing problems we face, and nothing in any of the health care/health insurance bills is going to do anything about that. Frankly, as a society, we are at war with death, and in every case, death always wins. We have medical care and procedures and procedures used in the last 3-6 months of life that are simply unaffordable and unsustainable as a society and these costs are what drive insurance costs for everyone. Until we accept the inevitablity of death in our lives, and adjust our attitudes accordingly, I don't see much change coming, despite all the hope I have......

Blue water pro, truer words were never spoken. I've been battling cancer for close to four years now. It comes and goes. Went thru 8 weeks intense radiation. Now I'm told it has continued to increase but it is several years away from getting serious at the rate it is growing. But not a day goes by that I don't know it's there and think about it. I can only count the things I have been able to do with my life that most will never see or even attempt. So I feel lucky.

When I had surgery they gave me morphine in recovery. That stuff damn near killed me but it felt so good I didn't care. So my instructions are, if things get bad, give me morphine, lots of it! My doctor is very pragmatic and open with me.

We are lucky to have good insurance but I will never opt to hang on if things get bad. That is just plain selfish!

When I had the surgery the Doc told me if it had not been discovered I would not have made it 6 months. So I consider it all a bonus now.