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#605159 - 06/11/10 08:24 PM Re: The Market [Re: ]
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Which is no doubt a direct result of the American 'free market' being hindered... and good ol' fashioned capitalism being systematically undermined by the current Socialist regime of Obama, Pelosi and Reid... right Hank? cowboy wink
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#605172 - 06/11/10 09:35 PM Re: The Market [Re: ]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Without the stimulus, spending would have dropped 10%.

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#605184 - 06/11/10 10:54 PM Re: The Market [Re: ]
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Registered: 01/11/03
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What big corp will the next stimulus buy?

If it isn't Tribal casinos, it's gonna be another flash in the pan. smile
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#605391 - 06/14/10 10:54 AM Re: The Market [Re: ParaLeaks]
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Registered: 12/30/07
Posts: 3116
Some guy showed up early on CNBC to talk about his own little "Watch list" thru his own special program that tracks what Congressional Reps and Senators are buying in Stock. Seems that many are buying stock in companies that are directly affected by pieces of legislation. While the President has to put his investments in a trust, your local reps are making money off your misery. During the drill drill drill debate Pelosi and others had bought into wind farm stocks. They all seem to be doing it. Even Senator Paul has nearly half his investments in gold related investments. Jim Kramer trades on politics all the time and he is often wrong. He push natural gas for a year or more and until the oil spill, natural gas stocks were out of favor. That can be a good time to buy in, but you might have to wait a year for it to move.

Unless you have a sizeable brokerage account, you cannot sell short on your own or even trade options. When you buy a stock thru mutual funds, those fund managers can loan out the stock to trade options and they are paid for that service. You buy a stock on a dip and it turns out to be heavily shorted and you keep watching it fall. Most investors dont know where to look to find how heavily a stock is being shorted.

By the time most people have bought into a stock, the mutual fund and hedge fund mgrs. already locked in their trades. When they sell out, you are left holding your higher priced stock. If you follow guys like Jim Kramer, they are up on a stock one day and a month later they are dumping it. Rarely do the stocks that he pushes, have good long term fundamentals. He doesnt trade like Buffet.

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#605544 - 06/15/10 09:47 AM Re: The Market [Re: ]
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Registered: 04/20/04
Posts: 256
Loc: Greenlake
Those big holdings may have to do with the fact that is a ok for senators and representatives to deal in insider trading. They can buy and sell knowing which way the wind is going to blow.
Some guy named Baird introduced a bill to end that practce but it never made it to a vote.

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#605666 - 06/15/10 08:31 PM Re: The Market [Re: Toy Boat]
Dave Vedder Offline
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Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 8379
Loc: West Duvall
Now the sneaky bastards are making the market go up. Some manipulation!

Market Summary
USEuropeAsiaDow 10,404.77 +213.88 +2.10%

Nasdaq 2,305.88 +61.92 +2.76%

S&P 500 1,115.23 +25.60 +2.35%

10 Yr Bond(%) 3.3100% +0.3500

Oil 76.50 +1.38 +1.84%

Gold 1,233.20 0.00 0.00%

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#605818 - 06/16/10 12:41 PM Re: The Market [Re: ]
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Registered: 12/12/09
Posts: 1025
Loc: Termite Country
"Most ignorance is evincible ignorance. We don't know because we don't want to know." - thumbs
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#605841 - 06/16/10 02:16 PM Re: The Market [Re: ]
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Registered: 12/12/09
Posts: 1025
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A little cranky this morning eh KayKayKay?

Tainted goat ass last night? Spoiled vino?

Central Banks have been manipulating markets for centuries,.....it's nothing new, and well documented.

If my belief in this interferes with your myopic view of a statist's utopia where all profits from man's endeavors go to strengthen the state, well,......... f uck off,..........I'll make no apologies for it.

The more I read your posts the more I understand what a hate filled little creature you are. It's my guess your hate for things you see lesser than you stems from an inward hate of one's own self. It's likely you're the product of a late night grope fest between brother and sister in the back of a broken down Model-T on wooden blocks.

Your lashing out is nothing more than an attempt to correct the reproductive injustice you feel was done to you. A shame really.

Your insults are dated and lame. Your use of words like "douchenozzle" seem to be a pathetic bid for a lonely 60-something to identify with the younger generation.

News flash,.........you're not young,........you're old and dried up.

Much like your ideas and you're world view. Only most people had the common sense to abandon that world view back in the 30's and 40's,.....when you were like, what, 24?
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#605844 - 06/16/10 02:27 PM Re: The Market [Re: ]
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Registered: 12/12/09
Posts: 1025
Loc: Termite Country
rofl
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#605851 - 06/16/10 02:52 PM Re: The Market [Re: ]
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 13508
SW,

If you really read KK's posts closely, you'd see just how cheaply he can be entertained by trolling for thin skinned conservatives on the internet. I think he's trying to develop it into an art form. But you seem to have swallowed hook, line, and sinker.

Douchenozzle, now there's a term I don't run across every day.

Sg

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#606323 - 06/18/10 07:25 PM Re: The Market [Re: ]
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Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 8379
Loc: West Duvall

Stocks post biggest two-week gain since November- AP
Here's something for investors beaten down by the market's sharp declines this spring: The Dow Jones industrial average just had its best two weeks since November.
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#606350 - 06/18/10 09:43 PM Re: The Market [Re: ]
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Loc: West Duvall
Who knows? All I know is what it did. Anyone who "knows" what it will do next is a fool.
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#608887 - 07/02/10 12:49 PM Re: The Market [Re: Dave Vedder]
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The Tide changed

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Posts: 7083
Loc: Everett
Reality is catching up with Wall street today. Can't keep the cat in the bag forever......
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