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#62792 - 05/18/01 01:42 PM TRIPLOID DOLLY VARDEN
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Fry

Registered: 05/07/01
Posts: 32
Loc: Bothell
I was reading that the state is trying to develop triploid Dolly Varden hoping that it would be predatory in lakes that have been over run by fish that are predators of trout....anyone else heard similar rumblings??? I fear another problem would just be created by this, but it is intriguing. Any thoughts??
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#62793 - 05/18/01 02:05 PM Re: TRIPLOID DOLLY VARDEN
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Registered: 05/03/01
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Loc: Edmonds
Where did you read this?
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#62794 - 05/18/01 04:10 PM Re: TRIPLOID DOLLY VARDEN
Stacie L. Kelsey Offline
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Registered: 05/18/01
Posts: 255
Loc: Vancouver
Personally I haven't heard anything about triploid Dolly Varden, however, we are using tiger trout for that purpose in some of our high lakes. Tiger trout are a cross between eastern brook and brown trout. We are evaluating them as a replacement for the brown trout program. These trout are pretty intense as far as trout predators goes.

I will post back if I hear anything on the Dolly Varden issue.

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Vancouver, WA

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#62795 - 05/18/01 04:12 PM Re: TRIPLOID DOLLY VARDEN
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Loc: Edmonds
Stacie, is there a listing on where these tiger Trout are located? rolleyes
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#62796 - 05/18/01 04:23 PM Re: TRIPLOID DOLLY VARDEN
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Parr

Registered: 05/14/01
Posts: 56
Loc: BC, Canada
umm how big do these trout get?
and if it's a mixbetween a trout and a char why is it a trout?

why not a Tiger Char?
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#62797 - 05/18/01 04:29 PM Re: TRIPLOID DOLLY VARDEN
Zen Leecher aka Bill W Offline
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Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 972
Loc: Moses Lake
If I said I knew of a lake where there's reputed to be tiger trout, what might I be "plied" with to get me to pass on that knowledge.

I haven't fished the lake either. Just know that there's supposed to be tiger trout in it.

Also, the stocking reports, fry or regular sized trout, don't reveal this data.
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#62798 - 05/18/01 04:34 PM Re: TRIPLOID DOLLY VARDEN
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Oh wise Zen Chronie, A ? for only you may have the answer oh wise one. With all this cross breeding and such, should we be worried? As isnt this how the Bass fisherman came to exist? laugh
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#62799 - 05/18/01 04:52 PM Re: TRIPLOID DOLLY VARDEN
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Loc: Moses Lake
I don't think bass fishermen came to be because of cross-breeding... hmmmm... why do I think the Trout Master is setting me up with this one.

I think bass fishermen came to be because they haven't evolved far enough to become trout fishermen.

One starts with catfish, then progresses to bluegills and bass, and then on to trout. Eventually they also learn the limber rod is the proper way to angle for trout.
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#62800 - 05/18/01 04:56 PM Re: TRIPLOID DOLLY VARDEN
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Posts: 394
Loc: Edmonds
Thank you oh wise one. I now have been blessed with more of your wise wisdom.
Now can you explain Micro Brew?????????????????????????????????????? laugh
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#62801 - 05/18/01 05:10 PM Re: TRIPLOID DOLLY VARDEN
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Registered: 05/02/01
Posts: 762
Loc: Silver Star,Mt
I don't know why they would want such a fish. When I fished in Eastern Wash a few years ago. My buddy caught a 18" dolly and when he cleaned it it had a 6" rainbow in it's stomach. Back in the good old days it was legal to keep them. If all they do is eat, then they will eat everything in the lake including Trout. eek
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#62802 - 05/18/01 05:14 PM Re: TRIPLOID DOLLY VARDEN
Stacie L. Kelsey Offline
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Registered: 05/18/01
Posts: 255
Loc: Vancouver
We have tigers in our Forlorn Lakes in SW Washington. They are used a lot of the time to prey on stunted fish species. In some lakes they can get up to 30 lbs. I got that info from a hatchery in California that uses them to control stunted fish populations. They seem to do a pretty darn good job at it!

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#62803 - 05/18/01 05:21 PM Re: TRIPLOID DOLLY VARDEN
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Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 236
Loc: Normandy Park
To understand Micro Brew, you have to achieve a higher level of enlightenment, perhaps with a nice porter or IPA. He will be venturing into the desert for a little meditation. Hopefully he will find his destination before dark - those scorpions can be exciting.... No snakes at night though.

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#62804 - 05/18/01 05:22 PM Re: TRIPLOID DOLLY VARDEN
Zen Leecher aka Bill W Offline
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Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 972
Loc: Moses Lake
The thought of a 30 pound predator in a lake is an interesting thought. It presents a whole lot of new possibilities.

Maybe they can also be used to control perch, bullheads, sunfish and other scrap fish??
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#62805 - 05/18/01 05:29 PM Re: TRIPLOID DOLLY VARDEN
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Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 394
Loc: Edmonds
Micro brew ever see the movie Deliverance?
Be careful walking alone in the desert.
If you hear Banjo music,walk in a fast pace in the opposite direction eek
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#62806 - 05/18/01 05:32 PM Re: TRIPLOID DOLLY VARDEN
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Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 972
Loc: Moses Lake
Micro,

Congratulations on achieving "returning adult" status. You have left your humble smolt beginnings behind.

So, if I read your message correctly, are you going fishing this weekend? Lenice and Nunnaly???

I got bit up by something this weekend that I'm still itching about. It didn't seem to be mosquitos as I had too much other area available to where they didn't have to bite thru my socks.

Ron said he got blood poisoning from one of his trips from the bites. I'm thinking the same thing bit me all over my ankles.

Oh.. ticks are bad over there right now. I had a fisherman pull 3 of them out of his hair in front of me one afternoon. Gave me a bad case of the heebie-jeebies.. and I was scratching and checking all over.

Email me and let me know what your weekend plans are. I tried to send you email and private email and you aren't set up for it.
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#62807 - 05/18/01 06:45 PM Re: TRIPLOID DOLLY VARDEN
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Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 236
Loc: Normandy Park
No problem on running from the banjo music, although ZL's post already has me scratching and doing tick checks. BTW, don't forget the belly button, had a friend find one there while he was in a sauna....

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#62808 - 05/18/01 09:45 PM Re: TRIPLOID DOLLY VARDEN
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Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 05/02/01
Posts: 246
Loc: Tacoma Wa,
Trout Master - Zen Leecher
Get out of hear wink
I'm keeping my eye on you two.
The Bass is a worthy Fish.
Whats the first fish anyone catches.
Ummm Trout Do you wonder why
I'm Glad I Fish with A stiff rod.
I hate a limp rod Ha! Ha! laugh
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#62809 - 05/18/01 10:45 PM Re: TRIPLOID DOLLY VARDEN
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Parr

Registered: 05/14/01
Posts: 56
Loc: BC, Canada
Zen,Zen,Zen...

When will you ever experience real fishing??!!??
If you think that a 30 pound fish in a lake is big...you dont know what big is!
Where I live...we have had 40+ pound Rainbows caught and Sturgeon to 1800 pounds.
Close by there has been 70 pound lake trout caught. cool
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#62810 - 05/19/01 08:04 AM Re: TRIPLOID DOLLY VARDEN
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Fry

Registered: 05/07/01
Posts: 32
Loc: Bothell
I read about Triploid Dolly Varden in an article about Triploid trout last weekend in a fishing "insert" that I picked up in Manson. I wish I had kept the article and brought it home.
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#62811 - 05/19/01 01:18 PM Re: TRIPLOID DOLLY VARDEN
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Registered: 05/02/01
Posts: 762
Loc: Silver Star,Mt
Zen. They could be fly bites. Deer flies get real big. I got bit by one up off the S/fork of the Snoqualmie about a week ago It swelled up to about the size of a .50 piece and itched alot. It bit me thru my pants. rolleyes
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