I hate what the fishing world is headed to and I hate what CCA has done to get that ball rolling... It truly sucks... Sure there are a few positives with CCA (outside of the CR system) but more than not, a lot of this process has been expediated with them involved... Thanks......

I often wonder if my kids will have the chance to enjoy what I've enjoyed through my younger years...

Keith

Keith, the short answer to that is NO, Unless they fish for perch or crappi. There were lots of fish and few people years past but the overfishing and habitat loss's is catching up with us now. And unless we can get some control of the pinnipeds and us, sturgeon are in real trouble also. It would be nice if we could get rid of some of those man made islands in the lower river also, help with bird predation.

I'll guarantee you "selective" fishing won't turn the wild fish populations around, all you bandwagon CCA folks just don't get it..... It's a [censored] joke...... Considering the status of 80% of the wild fish runs in the CR system, unless EVERYONE backs off of them COMPLETELY, they WILL keep dwindling..... Fact is, we can't have our cake and eat it too!

Ever ask yourself what the [censored] is happening to CANADA's and ALASKA's fish populations? IS CCA going to jump in up there and try to fix that as well? They're 15 or so years behind and starting on the same downward spiral too. We can bandaid this and bandaid that, it's just giving us a few more years before the end all here in the CR system.......

You bet you're ass I'm bummed, bummed seeing all the hatchery plant cuts that are coming. I'm getting the feeling CCA is a bunch of bunny hugging, fern sniffing, phony wild fish making groupies...

Keep it up boys and girls, we'll be off the local rivers soon! Your clown of a leader already has some local rivers so F'd up, it's a joke.

Oh and by the way.... It's CRAPPIE........

Yeah and I approve this message.......!

Keith

So does this mean your not sending $25 to Texas?

"Couldn't win a cake at the PTA"

to bad you do gooder 25 dollar fisheries experts cant put up a logical explanation about how this new commercial method with a lower release mortality rate wont effect sportfishing.

Ahh, [censored] it........ I'm done arguing...

I'm so close to just selling out while I can still get decent money for my gear. Before long you won't get pennies on the dollar for [censored].... Duck hunting, Elk hunting and turkey can keep me busy on my days off.

Keith

Let me see........... [censored] NO!

I'd send them $1000 if they'd get their nose out of the CR system. Go fix the Puget Sound..

Keith

With all of the years all of you boat ramp experts have had to correct the problems on the CR I am amazed that there are any problems there at all! What with crying here and at the boat ramp about this, that and the other there should have never been a reason for CCA, PSA, Fish NW or any of the other organizations trying to stop the hemorrhage of our public resource.

God help the Elk,ducks and turkeys if you take your brand of help to those resources!

Fishy

Precisely what I was thinking...

Keith

Not exactly my point, but keep throwing tantrums at the boat launch and on the net cause it has helped the resource sooo much in the past!

Fishy

Tantrums at the ramps? Interesting.... Not too sure where you are headed there.

Keith

My point being that no organization is going to make everyone happy, but collectively working toward the recovery of the resource is better than standing alone and flailing your arms while trying to get some recognition from anyone!
The way you genius's talk we would not have a problem if we had followed your dictum, yet that is precisely why we are where we are.

Fishy

Somethingsmellsf, i agree with trey 100 percent, what is you opinion, does it matter to you since you clearly dont sportfish.

“The difficulty we have with that is that if the commercials are allowed to fish the main river with selective (gear) that means they will be (allowed) to extract more hatchery fish and because of catch balancing mandates the possibility exists that they will be taking even more hatchery fish and that will have (negative) impacts on sport fishing

http://tnscommunications.net/OregonGillNetBanUpdates.aspx

It's simple. We can't have wild fish #'s that meet escapement through out the CR system and have sizeable hatchery plants too. So what's it going to be? What road are we headed down?

Is CCA going to be a bunny hugger, fern sniffing group or are they going to support some hatchery plants so they can compensate for this "selective" fishing idea which is going to shortfund the sporties from hatchery fish?

What's it going to be? You can't survive on both sides of the table... It don't work......

Keith

I believe CCA has been very clear on this and that hatchery plants are vital to all resource users and need to continue to be planted. That being said the proposals on the table will affect fisheries as they now stand. Everyone of us can surmise how and what the the outcome will be, but nobody can say for certain exactly what will happen or how.

If and I say "IF" the sports fishers are adversely effected, I will be very vocal on getting behind more hatchery plants and equability in accessing our marine resource. What I will not go along with is "business as usual and expecting a different result."

Boater: I clearly am out of the house more than you as you spend every waking minute online blathering and whining about the sky falling. If you do own a rod, you should take that yellow rod out once in awhile and perhaps you wouldn't be such a TOOL!


Fishy

Fishy

Good luck CCA, my gut feeling is you won't change [censored] on the LCR. The bible is already written....

Keith

Like I said I will not get behind business as usual and expect a different result. I have no idea about your gut but doing nothing sure has not worked well for any of us, except the commercials!

Fishy

Especially with your input!


Fishy

if ??, you have got to be kidding ?, how many news releases do you want me to post saying that the reason they are wanting the commercials to go to a more selective method so they can catch more hatchery fish do you want me to post ????

Let me summarize something for you.... The commercials in the LCR aren't the reason our wild fish aren't coming back... At one point in time long ago, they did assist in decimating the runs. But they don't fish year around now... The picture is just too big to understand. Sooner than later you'll realize even IF the commercials were ELIMINATED the wild fish runs WON'T bounce back. The commercials are such a small problem in the big picture.... Tell your CCA cronies to get after the bigger problems... But then again, that's not possible and just too much!

Here's your thought process... "Oh, let's do the little things that make a difference with CCA".... Got a new's flash for ya, it's not doing a thing except giving the commercials more hatchery fish, fish we'd have a chance to catch.... All to save a wild fish??? Well another new's flash, our wild fish aren't going to recover with switching the commercials up to "selective fishing"...

Show me documentation that proves me wrong.... Can ya? Anyone? Show me how that's going to rebuild our wild runs..................

In honesty, the lack of our wild fish isn't a laughing matter.... But CCA, you're doing quite the job getting us closer to doom's day fishing the LCR.....

I'm beyond sick of this [censored]... Frustrated as hell with the keyboard fisherman and those that have evolved over the last handful of years that look at the big picture and say "Hey, got $25, join CCA, get everyone on the same page so we can eliminate the gillnets in the LCR (MR. LOOMIS'S way to get people to sign up) no other group has fixed it so let's try this one". Pull your heads out of your asses and realize you're [censored] us guys that enjoy time on the LCR in the near future...

Keith