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#647003 - 12/22/10 01:03 PM Census Observations
alanmikkelsen Offline
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This ought to cause some more teeth gnashing here: grin

Census: Fast growth in states with no income tax
By: Michael Barone 12/21/10 8:05 PM

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Census Bureau Director Robert Groves announces results for the 2010 U.S. Census at the National Press Club, Tuesday, Dec. 21, 2010 in Washington.For those of us who are demographic buffs, Christmas came four days early when Census Bureau director Robert Groves announced on Tuesday the first results of the 2010 census and the reapportionment of House seats (and therefore electoral votes) among the states.
The resident population of the United States, he told us in a webcast, was 308,745,538. That's an increase of 9.7 percent from the
281,421,906 in the 2000 census -- the smallest proportional increase than in any decade other than the Depression 1930s but a pretty robust increase for an advanced nation. It's hard to get a grasp on such large numbers. So let me share a few observations on what they mean.

First, the great engine of growth in America is not the Northeast Megalopolis, which was growing faster than average in the mid-20th century, or California, which grew lustily in the succeeding half-century. It is Texas.

Its population grew 21 percent in the past decade, from nearly 21 million to more than 25 million. That was more rapid growth than in any states except for four much smaller ones (Nevada, Arizona, Utah and Idaho).

Texas' diversified economy, business-friendly regulations and low taxes have attracted not only immigrants but substantial inflow from the other 49 states. As a result, the 2010 reapportionment gives Texas four additional House seats. In contrast, California gets no new House seats, for the first time since it was admitted to the Union in 1850.

There's a similar lesson in the fact that Florida gains two seats in the reapportionment and New York loses two.

This leads to a second point, which is that growth tends to be stronger where taxes are lower. Seven of the nine states that do not levy an income tax grew faster than the national average. The other two, South Dakota and New Hampshire, had the fastest growth in their regions, the Midwest and New England.

Altogether, 35 percent of the nation's total population growth occurred in these nine non-taxing states, which accounted for just 19 percent of total population at the beginning of the decade.

My third observation is that immigration is slowing down and may be reversed. Immigration accelerated during the 1990s, and the 2000 census showed more immigrants than the Census Bureau had estimated.

In contrast, immigration has clearly slowed down since the housing bubble burst and the construction industry went bust in 2007. And the 2010 census showed fewer residents in several high-immigration states than the Census Bureau had estimated were there in 2009.

The drop was particularly big, 3 percent, in Arizona, where state and local governments have cracked down on illegals, notably by requiring employers to use the e-Verify system to determine immigration status (that law was signed by Janet Napolitano, then governor and now homeland security secretary).

We can't be sure until more detailed data are reported, but it looks like we're seeing significant reverse migration. The lesson is that states' public policy and law enforcement practices can make a difference.

Finally, let's get to politics. The net effect of the reapportionment was to add six House seats and electoral votes to the states John McCain carried in 2008 and to subtract six House seats and electoral votes from the states Barack Obama carried that year. Similarly, the states carried by George W. Bush in 2004 gained six seats and the states carried by John Kerry lost six.

That's not an enormous change. But it's part of a long-term trend that has reshaped the nation's politics. If you go back to the 1960 election, when the electoral votes were based on the 1950 census, you will find that John Kennedy won 303 electoral votes. But the states he carried then will have only 272 electoral votes in 2012, a bare majority. And without Texas, which he narrowly carried, the Kennedy states would have only 234 electoral votes.

The bottom line: You need a lot more than the Northeast and the industrial Midwest to get elected president these days.

And to control a majority in the House of Representatives. Thanks to unexpectedly large gains in state legislatures, Republicans stand to control the redistricting process in 18 states with 204 House districts, while Democrats will control it in only seven states with
49 districts. That doesn't guarantee continued Republican majorities, but it's probably worth 10 to 15 seats.

Meanwhile, I await the post-Christmas treat of more detailed census results to come.

Michael Barone,The Examiner's senior political analyst, can be contacted at mbarone@washingtonexaminer.com. His column appears Wednesday and Sunday, and his stories and blog posts appear on ExaminerPolitics ...
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#647020 - 12/22/10 01:59 PM Re: Census Observations [Re: alanmikkelsen]
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Quite the stretch and Washington St doesn't fit the most of this flawed logic. I think it has more to do with which state has better lemon scented candles....or jobs.
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#647038 - 12/22/10 02:55 PM Re: Census Observations [Re: stlhead]
alanmikkelsen Offline
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Originally Posted By: stlhead
Quite the stretch and Washington St doesn't fit the most of this flawed logic. I think it has more to do with which state has better lemon scented candles....or jobs.


Washington State: A paragon of economic well-being. rofl
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#647045 - 12/22/10 03:28 PM Re: Census Observations [Re: alanmikkelsen]
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I notcied on the census your state beat us in one category:

Mobile Homes, Percent of Total Housing Units, 2008
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#647046 - 12/22/10 03:29 PM Re: Census Observations [Re: alanmikkelsen]
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Instead of names like ballwasher why don't you "refudiate" what was presented.
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#647067 - 12/22/10 04:37 PM Re: Census Observations [Re: stlhead]
alanmikkelsen Offline
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Originally Posted By: stlhead
I notcied on the census your state beat us in one category:

Mobile Homes, Percent of Total Housing Units, 2008


Yep, we're an upwardly mobile society... grin

Myself, I live in a storage unit in Orofino...

Peace......


Edited by alanmikkelsen (12/22/10 04:38 PM)
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#647092 - 12/22/10 06:30 PM Re: Census Observations [Re: alanmikkelsen]
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Keep up your payments or you'll be auctioned off.
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#647119 - 12/22/10 08:31 PM Re: Census Observations [Re: stlhead]
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Looks like a lot of people moved from states with cold winters to states that are warmer. A major downside is that population increased a lot in states that already have young people too dumb to pass the military entrance exam, and these are states that have the lowest rated public education already. Population growth won't make it better. But at least they vote Republican and will have more seats in the House, further reducing the likelihood of improving their educational systems. And since they won't be able to get into the military, even more will take up meth addiction and sales, rejecting Kentucky bourbon for some strange reason.

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#647233 - 12/23/10 08:57 AM Re: Census Observations [Re: ]
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As to the education and politics linkage, that is a strange one to say the least. You tell a Black Mother in Baltimore that voting D will get her child a better education or even finish high school, more likely to get a GED in prison. The worse schools usually are in urban areas with large minority populations pretty much done in by drugs and crime, not even going to go to the gang thing.

As any areas urban population grows so will the trash that comes with the growth. If the lower income minority populations get grouped into areas ( by choice or economic circumstance ) the crime and drugs will follow as will the decline in education. As the Southern and heartland populations increase so will all the problems because it is a people thing.

It is a social / economic problem that just throwing money at ( D's ) has failed miserably. Ignoring it like it did not exist ( R's ) has not been a roaring success either. To link education to a particular party is way past stupid! It is about MONEY but not taxes! Better schools but more importantly parents that are better educated, communities more affluent, a kids entire life from birth to 18 is completely different in suburb, up scale city, or rural for that matter than inner city.

Political parties my ass it is about personal wealth.
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#647372 - 12/23/10 05:28 PM Re: Census Observations [Re: Rivrguy]
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The politicians don't care about public ed cause they send their kids to PRIVATE school. The Seattle Time article says over 800k people moved here in the last 10 years. No wonder your favorite fishing spot is so crowded. Time to move back to Alaska
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