#652941 - 01/11/11 03:48 PM
Re: Ramifications from AZ shoot-up?
[Re: Irie]
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The government doesn't need to do anything, whack jobs, both right and left, will always find a way. This idiot could just as easily driven through a playground full of kids or started slashing people in a crowded night club. Perhaps, had someone in the crowd been caring a gun, they could have shot the punk and limited his damage. This could be a good argument for advocating legal concealed carry.
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#652943 - 01/11/11 03:54 PM
Re: Ramifications from AZ shoot-up?
[Re: Irie]
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BUCK NASTY!!
Registered: 01/26/00
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The massacre in AZ was a horrible tragedy carried out by a delusional, paranoid madman. If ever there was a use for the death penalty, now would be a good time.
I want to hear all your thoughts on what the Gubmit puts the smack-down on.
We have a GOP House, so Im guessing their fundraising powerhouse over at The NRA won't let them ban hi-cap mags or really do anything that might piss off their buddies at Springfield, S&W, or Colt.
What I personally predict is expanded DHS powers and full-time security details for federal officials.
That's my guess, anyway.
I doubt they'll start requiring psych evals for gun buyers, though. That would disqualify and disarm the entire John Birch Society. Police can't be everywhere at all times to stop whack jobs like this guy. Perhaps it's time we start policing ourselves a little? Keith
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#652948 - 01/11/11 04:20 PM
Re: Ramifications from AZ shoot-up?
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There was a bystander with a gun, but by the time he arrived, they other folks had the shooter on the ground.
Sad state of affairs when the mentally ill get hold of a firearm. What is the saddest is that a 9 year old died.
Lots of political grandstanding and poorly written articles ahve already been seen.
If there was any justice, I'd let the father of the 9 year old go at the shooter with a baseball bat. (dad is involved with the Dodger team)
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#652958 - 01/11/11 04:53 PM
Re: Ramifications from AZ shoot-up?
[Re: Irie]
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Returning Adult
Registered: 12/09/03
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Loc: Seattle
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Dogfish got it right but omitted some key facts. There was a bystander with a gun. He took the safety off his gun, rushed to the scene and knocked a person who had subdued the shooter into a wall before realizing that he almost shot the hero who had actaully subdued the gunman. The armed hero potentially shot the true hero and was admittedly lucky he did not. http://www.slate.com/id/2280794/ These facts don't help convince me that having more people carry would help in these situations.
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#652967 - 01/11/11 05:18 PM
Re: Ramifications from AZ shoot-up?
[Re: Brant]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
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Odds are even more people would have been shot in the chaos.
Nut job starts shooting....bystander starts shooting at nut job...another bystander starts shooting at first bystander....everyone dies.
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#652968 - 01/11/11 05:18 PM
Re: Ramifications from AZ shoot-up?
[Re: Irie]
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April Fool
Registered: 06/18/01
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Impossible to make sense of the senseless, this kind of stuff will always happen.
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#652971 - 01/11/11 05:19 PM
Re: Ramifications from AZ shoot-up?
[Re: Sol Duc]
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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It'll always be the same political grandstanding from both sides...
"If we had less guns, or evaluated people better before letting them have guns, this wouldn't have happened."
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"If only everyone there had a gun someone would have shot him before he shot so many people."
Fish on...
Todd
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#652974 - 01/11/11 05:24 PM
Re: Ramifications from AZ shoot-up?
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 12/12/09
Posts: 1025
Loc: Termite Country
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Apparently the local Sheriff's office knew this kid well and was aware he had made death threats in the past.
My question would be why those threats were not followed up on by the Sheriff's Dept.
IMO the only thing worse than this lunatic are the political vultures who seek to push agendas on the death of a nine yr old.
Lost in all of this as well was the loss of a fine (IMO) judge, who would have been considered right leaning. Not much out of the media about him. Wonder why? Doesn't fit their narative of the kid being some kind of right-wing radical, that's why.
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#653024 - 01/11/11 07:20 PM
Re: Ramifications from AZ shoot-up?
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 6732
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Maybe. She seems to hold sway over some idiots but I guess not enough of them can afford cable because they canceled her show.
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#653027 - 01/11/11 07:26 PM
Re: Ramifications from AZ shoot-up?
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April Fool
Registered: 06/18/01
Posts: 15727
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That show should be canceled.
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#653034 - 01/11/11 07:55 PM
Re: Ramifications from AZ shoot-up?
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clown flocker
Registered: 10/19/09
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Loc: Water
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News just reported that gun sales have jumped in Arizona with the top selling model being the Glock 19.
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#653044 - 01/11/11 08:19 PM
Re: Ramifications from AZ shoot-up?
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 09/27/06
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Loc: St. Ignatius, MT
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CNN--On his YouTube page, a list of his favorite books included both Adolf Hitler's "Mein Kampf" and Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels' "The Communist Manifesto," along with works by George Orwell, Ray Bradbury, Ken Kesey, Herman Hesse, Ernest Hemingway, Plato and Aesop's fables.
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#653073 - 01/11/11 09:13 PM
Re: Ramifications from AZ shoot-up?
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River Nutrients
Registered: 11/26/06
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Loc: South Sound
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CNN--On his YouTube page, a list of his favorite books included both Adolf Hitler's "Mein Kampf" and Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels' "The Communist Manifesto," along with works by George Orwell, Ray Bradbury, Ken Kesey, Herman Hesse, Ernest Hemingway, Plato and Aesop's fables. He had his bases pretty well covered. From what I've read he subscribed to every nutjob conspiracy theory that tumbled off the turnip truck. Gubmit Mind Control Plots seemed to be his favorite though. Whatever that little girls name was-- Betsy? Tinkerbell? Whatever it was, expect a "_______'s Law" to be slammed through both houses before winter's over with much fanfare, media coverage, crying politicians on both sides, moments of silence, earmarks, and rider bills.
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#653074 - 01/11/11 09:14 PM
Re: Ramifications from AZ shoot-up?
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Reverend Tarpones
Registered: 10/09/02
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Loc: West Duvall
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This could be a good argument for advocating legal concealed carry. Do you EVER get it right? AZ is one of a few states that allow concealed carry W/O a permit.
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