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#690958 - 06/27/11 02:20 AM Justice Ginsburg...... Global warming Sceptic.
Sol Duc Offline
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She must be one of them unedumacated redneck tea party types our local Warmists are always raving about: flog


Ruth Ginsburg:Global Warming Sceptic

As Watts Up With That ? notes, Judge Ginsburg in the (8-0)opinion she wrote in American Electric Power v. Connecticut reveals she is a global warming sceptic :



The court decision noted that the Environmental Protection Agency itself had “Acknowledg[ed] that not all scientists agreed on the causes and consequences of the rise in global temperatures,” before suggesting readers consult “views opposing” the conventional wisdom. Specifically, the justices’ recommended reading was a superb profile of Princeton’s Freeman Dyson, perhaps America’s most respected scientist, written in the New York Times Magazine, March 29, 2009.

Freeman, an unabashed skeptic, believes that carbon dioxide, rather than being harmful, is both necessary and desirable, arguing that “increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.”

Somewhat in the same vein, Justice Ginsburg notes carbon dioxide is necessary and ubiquitous, and thus shouldn’t be the target of indiscriminate attacks. “After all, we each emit carbon dioxide merely by breathing,” she notes, repeating a point that Dyson couldn’t have said better himself.


Edited by Sol Duc (06/27/11 02:21 AM)
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#690968 - 06/27/11 09:57 AM Re: Justice Ginsburg...... Global warming Sceptic. [Re: Sol Duc]
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Scepticism must be wiped out!!
Get back in line, you rebel!

It's really too bad on many fronts that many of today's populace are either so naive, or so preoccupied, or just simply so needy and greedy, that individual thought is nearly lost and questioning popular trends is beyond their comfort zone.

So, Bellevue Boy....what's that red dot in that sea of blue? smile
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#691003 - 06/27/11 01:03 PM Re: Justice Ginsburg...... Global warming Sceptic. [Re: ParaLeaks]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Aren't all judges also experts in global weather and climate sciences like you guys are?

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#691012 - 06/27/11 01:54 PM Re: Justice Ginsburg...... Global warming Sceptic. [Re: ]
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I just read the entire "case"...it's not even a case, it didn't even in the remotest sense say what the author of the quoted article said (whoever he is, and wherever he wrote it...link?)...

That author should never be allowed to report on legal proceedings...ever...and anyone dumb enough to rely on anything he writes about the law should be shot on sight for repeating it to anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together.

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#691028 - 06/27/11 03:26 PM Re: Justice Ginsburg...... Global warming Sceptic. [Re: ]
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I think he meant "septic"...the tank where the author of the article and the OP got this topic.

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#691030 - 06/27/11 03:29 PM Re: Justice Ginsburg...... Global warming Sceptic. [Re: Todd]
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Was Justic Ginsburg ever a lawyer?

Oh yeah, she was.

Well now, that explains everything......
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#691033 - 06/27/11 03:47 PM Re: Justice Ginsburg...... Global warming Sceptic. [Re: The Moderator]
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The truth is that man - both individualy and as a species - has about the same effect on the earth as an ant or a fly does. Some people just can't accept that. moon
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#691040 - 06/27/11 04:13 PM Re: Justice Ginsburg...... Global warming Sceptic. [Re: Sol Duc]
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Sol Duc, you posted (without a link, or saying who the author is) a steaming pile of crap that isn't in any way related to the truth...and when given a chance to at least share where you got that steaming pile of crap, or, perhaps this is very, very unlikely...look up the truth yourself...you instead ate the pile of streaming crap...again.

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#691049 - 06/27/11 04:24 PM Re: Justice Ginsburg...... Global warming Sceptic. [Re: Todd]
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Hey Todd...fu. shoot
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#691058 - 06/27/11 04:36 PM Re: Justice Ginsburg...... Global warming Sceptic. [Re: Sol Duc]
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Solomon's biggest mistake was actually linking to the "case" (it's not, it's a petition for certiorari)...so that anyone could go read just how full of crap he is.

The Court said it is the EPA's job to make regulations that control the emission of CO2, no the Court does not make decisions like that...not because they think there's a controversy about climate change or not, but because it's not their job to make decisions like that, it's their job to review the decisions that others make.

The Court could have just as easily said "We have no position on whether or not the sky is blue", if they were discussing an agency's rule about such a thing...without meaning that they think there's a genuine controversy about the color of the sky.

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#691064 - 06/27/11 04:54 PM Re: Justice Ginsburg...... Global warming Sceptic. [Re: ]
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#691070 - 06/27/11 05:08 PM Re: Justice Ginsburg...... Global warming Sceptic. [Re: Dave Vedder]
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"Aren't all judges also experts in global weather and climate sciences like you guys are?"

So last week it was select astronomers and this weeks it's select judges. I bet we can find some palm readers who are weather "experts" too.
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#691085 - 06/27/11 05:41 PM Re: Justice Ginsburg...... Global warming Sceptic. [Re: stlhead]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Originally Posted By: Sol Dork
My opinion is that man - both individualy and as a species - has about the same effect on the earth as an ant or a fly does.



Fixed that typo for you.
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#691086 - 06/27/11 05:45 PM Re: Justice Ginsburg...... Global warming Sceptic. [Re: Dan S.]
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But here is the big lie... the biggest contributing greenhouse gas to global warming is not CO2. Nope, it's water vapor, by a huge margin. And water vapor level do not rise unless there is already another heat source. Most likely, the earth goes through some kind of heavy solar cycle or volcanic cycle causing the initial warm up causing ocean temperatures to rise. Once that happens, water vapor levels rise and the rest is history.
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#691088 - 06/27/11 05:51 PM Re: Justice Ginsburg...... Global warming Sceptic. [Re: Sol Duc]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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So?

Were you making a point, or just repeating what Hannity told you over the weekend?

Put more CO2 into the atmosphere (we put 7 billion tons there annually), and you also put more water vapor into the air. The increased CO2 not allowing the sun's heat to radiate away at the rate it should is your "another heat source".

So, were you trying to make the point that humans ARE f'ing up the atmosphere, or were you just waving around that red herring to distract somebody?
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#691210 - 06/28/11 02:03 AM Re: Justice Ginsburg...... Global warming Sceptic. [Re: Dan S.]
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#691228 - 06/28/11 09:51 AM Re: Justice Ginsburg...... Global warming Sceptic. [Re: HOOKUP]
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Hey, don't go fkn with MY VERSION of science. smile

methinks way too much "science" ain't science at all huh
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#691275 - 06/28/11 02:08 PM Re: Justice Ginsburg...... Global warming Sceptic. [Re: ParaLeaks]
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People form opinions and then go looking for information to support the opinion . Then they surround themselves with people that support the opinion. It is a myth that practitioners of science are more objective than laypersons. Real good book on this topic just came out ,The Believing Brain by Michael Shermer.
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#691282 - 06/28/11 02:52 PM Re: Justice Ginsburg...... Global warming Sceptic. [Re: Dan S.]
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Originally Posted By: Dan S.
So?

Were you making a point, or just repeating what Hannity told you over the weekend?

Put more CO2 into the atmosphere (we put 7 billion tons there annually), and you also put more water vapor into the air. The increased CO2 not allowing the sun's heat to radiate away at the rate it should is your "another heat source".

So, were you trying to make the point that humans ARE f'ing up the atmosphere, or were you just waving around that red herring to distract somebody?


Wouldn't all the hard, heat radiating surfaces we humans have been creating (parking lots, roofs, etc etc) add to the heat source? ? ? ? ?
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#691298 - 06/28/11 03:31 PM Re: Justice Ginsburg...... Global warming Sceptic. [Re: Us and Them]
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Originally Posted By: Tom Joad
People form opinions and then go looking for information to support the opinion . Then they surround themselves with people that support the opinion. It is a myth that practitioners of science are more objective than laypersons. Real good book on this topic just came out ,The Believing Brain by Michael Shermer.


"It is a myth that practitioners of science are more objective than laypersons."

Have you any proof of this, besides your presumably unbiased author's unbiased book?

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