WTF? We're cutting things to the bone and she wants to spend more money. Yes, $10MM is a drop in the bucket, but she is creating yet another program, and more overhead, and another office, and the final cost will be????? $10MM my ass.

I am all for jobs, but not more government jobs. Try to look like a hero spending $10MM on a whim, but posture about cutting levy equalization funds that help level the playing field for poor school districts. If she had junk, I'd kick her squarely in it.

http://blog.thenewstribune.com/business/.../#ixzz1dvB0gIoU


There’s no question that Washington state is the best place in the world to build the Boeing 737 MAX jetliner,” said Gregoire at a Renton press conference. “And I believe that when all is said and done, Boeing will make the best decision and build this game-changing aircraft in this state.”

But Gregoire, who has seen Boeing twice turn its back on its native state, once when it moved its headquarters to Chicago and a second time when it built a 787 Dreamliner assembly line in South Carolina, said she’s taking nothing for granted.

She announced a budget-minded action plan to enhance the education of aerospace workers in the state.

That plan includes a new aerospace curriculum at 12 high schools, a new science and mathematics problem-solving course at 10 high schools and a $7.6 million program to enhance engineering education at the University of Washington and Washington State University.

The governor’s plan would also designate $1.5 million plus other funds from private donors to create a Center for Aerospace Technology Innovation at UW and WSU.

Gregoire said she will create an aerospace office within her staff to coordinate and grow aerospace opportunities in the state.

The governor’s plan has a bargain-basement total price of less than $10 million compared with the multi-billion dollar plan the state presented Boeing to win its first Dreamliner assembly line.


Read more: http://blog.thenewstribune.com/business/.../#ixzz1dw1bJq5B

She doesn't have a clue.

Boeing used to have a 6 week unpaid training course where they taught you how to measure, drive rivets, etc. It was basically junior high metal shop. The real purpose for the class was to see who would show up every evening and not be late for 6 weeks.

she taking it from all the other school to give to 12 schools. screw the rest of the state but take care of seattle nice

Oh noes! Spending money on education?! What has the world come to?

Back in the days when I was a youngster, Scoop Jackson and good ol' Warren Magnusen, I'm just wondering how many staffers did they have on their payroll? I would expect it pales in comparrison to what we are saddled with now in the Murray and Cantwell era.

I'm sure that many of you Seattle liberals that are way smarter than me could google it up and find out. I'm guessing that the number of paid people on a single Senators staff from say like 50 years ago, and even perhaps 30 years ago, would simply amaze just about everyone who has not looked it up. Now, All of this huge need for so many staffers in the age of computers and ease of access to information ?..Please, we're all paying for it now.

Too much government? I happen to think so. One thing no one ever seems to embrace is what the government retirement / entitlement benifents our senators and representitives continue to get year after year, then continue to do so after they finally do retire or finally get voted out of office, it's just insane.

Sheese, is it any wonder why the schiester lawyers who can't make a living in a hometown law practice become politicians?

I should have continued my poly sci degree at UW and never become a journeyman machinist.

Thankfully, I chose to be a machinist. At least I now have a marketable skill.

Boeing is headed out of this area. This is a high tax / high service state, they deal with a rather stubborn union, and finally a PC government that even had the governor prancing around on the picket line last strike for cameras.

A former union rep on the radio during the strike came right out and said if it continued Boeing would steadily stop building here. Gonna happen.

Gotta invest in the future or PS will look like GH or Detriot! Especially considering that the southern states are doing everything they can to invest in education and infrastucture, not to mention low taxes, to bring in new business.

The problem this state has is that it picks winners and losers instead of treating all businesses the same way.

And yea standing on a picket line shouting "strike, strike" wasn't the Queen's smartest move but then again votes are more emportant then the future of the state

And I got 6 weeks back pay from a class action law suite

Low taxes don't encourage business. High taxes don't discourage business.

This is pandering of the worst kind. Whats next, fund all the microsoft university students? Boeing can afford to pay for their recruits to go thru classes. They cannot guarantee any of these students will get a job with Boeing.

"Low taxes don't encourage business. High taxes don't discourage business."

You would have a big bloody knot on your head if Tod's 'what if we could smack people in the head with a club for being stupid' were reality.

Your experience in business is what?

And she thinks that the grads won't go where the work is??

What is funny about all of this is that every time a Jr/Sr high school is remodeled or replaced the first thing that is eliminated is the shop class areas. So now the Gov is going to put a little money back into a few schools BFD. I don't recall ever hearing Boeing say they cannot find qualified workers in this state, whether it be machinists or engineers.

He shoveled snow for pennies a couple years ago.

"That plan includes a new aerospace curriculum at 12 high schools, a new science and mathematics problem-solving course at 10 high schools ...."

Those schools are probably all located on reservations too....

It wouldn't matter if I had only a high school diploma or a Post Doc in economics, you still wouldn't agree with me.

Here's a simple economic question I was asked one time: If your taxes were raised significantly, would you work less at your job because of the tax burden?

Please don't respond with some garbage about how high taxes burden the rich therefore the don't create jobs, blah, blah...

The answer for me to the simply economic question is that I would SPEND less money on goods, perhaps leading to less private sector jobs.

This.

Where do the funds come from? The same place all the funds for TAX CUTS come from. They come from the belief that if you take the action, the re-action is a net *increase* in business activity and thus the program is paid for with the incremental tax revenue generated.

*IF* you believed that a $10M subsidy would bring $20B to the state, every politician on the planet would sign up for it. But it's *exactly* why it's B.S. when those exact same people all claim the free market should decide the winners...

If they raised the taxes at your place of work and you could go to another company and pay thousands less, would you? Thats the correct question in this case.

Well, the fact that Boeing is literally pulling the strings behind the scenes on this one should tell you who really is in control of this issue.

Whats good for Boeing is good for Washington.
With the recent huge orders, they are going to need some people who can think. 10M is well worth it if it keeps Boeing happy.

They've made $2.65 Billion year to date. They need the state's $10 million? Really?

They need it as much as they need more tax breaks.

Fish on...

Todd

The question is not whether they need it but whether they can get it somewhere else. Answer? Yes. They are in business to make money....hellllloooo. Or I guess to the geniuses here they could stay here and we could tax them alot more and the unions could squeeze them some more and they should stay here and like it cause it is only fair...right?

Does the state need THEIR jobs?

So true.

I'm with grizz1.

We should eliminate ALL taxes and regulations that negatively affect Boeing's bottom line. We should make unions and collective bargaining illegal here in Washington state and give them free reign to all of our taxpayer-funded public resources.

They're a business and need to make money after all.

It's nice to see someone finally gets it. Nice to see you come around.

Probably their #1 resource for new hires.

And they do train easily

Let's see, when the state didn't do enough for Boeing to keep its headquarters in Seattle, the whiners whined. And when the state didn't do enough to keep all the Boeing Dreamliner assembly in WA, the whiners whined.

And now, when the state decided to invest in some education that may develop future employees for Boeing, guess what? Yeah, the whiners always whine.

Goes to show, you cannot ever placate Boeing or whiners.

C'mon 4Salt. What we are looking for is some balance. Washington needs to be comptetive or we will see all of those planes built elsewhere.

There definentely should be a preference to hire vets. That should be worth some tax incentives.