What a terrible story and something that makes it more difficult for the other soldiers there. We are going to have to say more than "I'm sorry" for this one.

Meh. No, really. Its a war zone.

Gonna wait for what really happened before I respond how the media wants me to.

Sixteen dead including women and children.......guy leaves his unit by himself and goes off into town........

hard to misinterpret

like things aren't whacked out enough over there already.......this will not help

I heard a guy (supposedly some counselor who worked with the Military and their families) say "It makes you wonder who the real victim is". I damn near drove off the road. Are you f'ning kidding me?

In simple terms I suspect that alleged counseler meant that you gotta
be nuts to, one on one, shoot up kids. Like that nut in Arizona.
The shrinks will love it. " what were you thinking about?" etc.

4th tour.
3 Iraq
1st Afghan

Thanks for your service.
At least Korea didn't get sand in everything.

The Afghani's are looking for justice. For once I agree with them. I think we should turn him over to the Afghani "justice" system and let them take of him.

No, wasn't me.
The alleged shooter had done 3 Iraq tours and was on his 4th in Afghan.

If true, maybe those in charge need to look at how much these guys can take.

I can't imagine the stress of every time you go out on patrol you don't know if :

An IED is going to blow you into little bits
A sniper is going to nail you
One of your Afghan patrol members is going to turn and dump a mag into you
Maybe you're walking into an old-fashioned ambush

I agree.

Fish on...

Todd

Well, that would be the very best solution, to say the least...but I don't see that happening soon enough to have anything to do with this situation.

Fish on...

Todd

+1

No one should be doing 4 tours of duty in a combat zone, and if they are so voluntarily, they should have a psych exam before each returning tour.

I'm all for the guy if he snapped due to PTSD or some other form of war trauma. The military and his country let him down big time.

Perhaps we wouldn't need to send our brave young men and women over there 4 or 5 times if we didn't keep starting unnecessary wars!!

Hopefully they will kick us out of there.

I think our military produces superb killers out of ordinary men.

I think our nation and our military takes pretty poor care of its soldiers.

I expect there is more to this story.

I think our society produces supreme killers of everything.

Let's let WDFW manage the war........won't be any in short order.

Salmo, I agree that there is more to the story. I wonder whether we will ever find out what the rest of the story is? We had better, because openess and transparency is the only chance (albeit slim) to mitigate the Afghani response.

It would be bad enough if it was just an isolated incident.

I think that most (if not all) of this is on the Army.
They give these guys clean bills of health whenever they possibly can to save the cost of proper care.

This guy is a 38 year old Sergeant and probably a damn good one.
The kind of guy that looked after his charges and saw to it that they got home in one piece.
Those in charge of re-deployments would give the red carpet to a combat-tested non-com requesting to go back.


That sounds like a bunch of crap meant for local Afghani consumption.
They need to look at the system that failed to look after this Sergeant.


A terrible thing happened that night, there's no doubt about that.
Terrible things happen in war.

Amen

No winners here.