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#751510 - 04/03/12 08:53 AM The Court
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President Obama, employing his strongest language to date on the Supreme Court review of the federal health care overhaul, cautioned the court Monday against overturning the law -- while repeatedly saying he's "confident" it will be upheld.

The president spoke at length about the case at a joint press conference with the leaders of Mexico and Canada. The president, adopting what he described as the language of conservatives who fret about judicial activism, questioned how an "unelected group of people" could overturn a law approved by Congress.




"I'm confident that the Supreme Court will not take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically elected Congress," Obama said.







Edited by Jerry Garcia (04/03/12 08:54 AM)
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#751514 - 04/03/12 09:18 AM Re: The Court [Re: Jerry Garcia]
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So much for representative government. Gawd damn. Do we need an overhaul, or what?
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#751533 - 04/03/12 12:19 PM Re: The Court [Re: ]
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As I've said before, the term "activist judge" is about the dumbest thing that anyone can ever say. When people want to use it, they should just stfu and say what they really mean, which is "court ruled in a way I don't like".

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#751581 - 04/03/12 02:24 PM Re: The Court [Re: Todd]
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Gee, thought the Supreme Court was supposed to be a "Check and Balance". Guess I should have slept through school instead of paying attention.

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#751599 - 04/03/12 03:07 PM Re: The Court [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
According to this, The Supremes have checked and balanced a lot of times.



Yes, they have...and in those 4,617 times you cited, there are millions of people who cheered each one as a "proper check" on executive or legislative power, and millions who called it "judicial activism" because they didn't like the outcome.

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#751724 - 04/03/12 09:04 PM Re: The Court [Re: Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Todd
As I've said before, the term "activist judge" is about the dumbest thing that anyone can ever say. When people want to use it, they should just stfu and say what they really mean, which is "court ruled in a way I don't like".

Fish on...

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Well stated Todd........ beer

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#751743 - 04/03/12 09:42 PM Re: The Court [Re: ]
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If this national health insurance mandate is ruled unconstitutional then would Washington State's car insurance mandate be unconstitutional as well?
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#751758 - 04/03/12 10:05 PM Re: The Court [Re: Steelheadman]
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That would depend on Washington's Constitution. The question before the Supremes deals with the US Constitution and interstate commerce, among other things. WA car insurance is an intrastate issue.

The devil is in the details.

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#751821 - 04/04/12 02:20 AM Re: The Court [Re: Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Todd
As I've said before, the term "activist judge" is about the dumbest thing that anyone can ever say. When people want to use it, they should just stfu and say what they really mean, which is "court ruled in a way I don't like".

Fish on...

Todd


About the dumbest. The dumbest thing said by a wide margin, is that Federal money going back to the states for health care is a GIFT. None other than his own former Solicitor General, Justice Kegan.

Activist Judge has been redefined as you stated above. Its original definition is legislating from the bench, such as Roe v Wade.

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#751836 - 04/04/12 04:56 AM Re: The Court [Re: Fast and Furious]
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Mr. Oh-so-smart likely isn't helping his case any by attempting to tell the SCOTUS what it can and can't do..............more than once.

Next question.....is being POTUS the same as being GOD? Apparently there is at least one who thinks so......
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#751871 - 04/04/12 12:16 PM Re: The Court [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
Originally Posted By: Todd
As I've said before, the term "activist judge" is about the dumbest thing that anyone can ever say. When people want to use it, they should just stfu and say what they really mean, which is "court ruled in a way I don't like".

Fish on...

Todd


“I just remind conservative commentators that for years we have heard the biggest problem on the bench was judicial activism or a lack of judicial restraint. That an unelected group of people would somehow overturn a duly constituted and passed law. Well, this is a good example and I am pretty confident that this Court will recognize that and not take that step,” Obama said to the White House press.

wink


I think he's just throwing their retarded term back at 'em to see if they have one whit of consistency, or if they'll just be hypocrites...and I think we both know what the answer will be...likely the same that it is with all the hypocrites here talking about it.

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#751910 - 04/04/12 02:30 PM Re: The Court [Re: Todd]
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Hank doesn't get that, Todd, even though it has been obvious since Obama said it.

Faux rage on!

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#751919 - 04/04/12 03:17 PM Re: The Court [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
Todd Offline
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He knows that...there's dumbshits who don't know their [Bleeeeep!] from their elbow, so they would say it was a "challenge to the court's authority"...and then there are guys who know exactly what it is, but would say that anyway to gin up a controversy that doesn't actually exist.

Not sure which is worse...the idiots or the morally bankrupt.

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#751924 - 04/04/12 03:22 PM Re: The Court [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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Round two...and horseshit again.

He'll have no "activist judges" to blame...they're doing their job, and he knows that.

What he will have to blame is a whole bunch of Republican legislators who scream "activist judges!" at the top of their lungs whenever one of their bills is struck down, but sit by quietly when it's happening to the AHCA...

That hypocrisy is what is being exposed.

That being said, Republican voters either already know, or are fuckin retarded if they don't know, that they are voting for hypocrites every time they pull the lever, punch a card, or ink in bubble.

It hasn't stopped them yet, so I doubt it will stop them in the future.

Fish on...

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#751928 - 04/04/12 03:25 PM Re: The Court [Re: Todd]
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Aren't most politicians hipocrites regardless of party?
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#751930 - 04/04/12 03:26 PM Re: The Court [Re: gvbest]
Todd Offline
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Originally Posted By: gvbest
Aren't most politicians hipocrites regardless of party?


Yes...but some individuals are far worse than others.

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#751952 - 04/04/12 05:00 PM Re: The Court [Re: ]
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Hey, it look like Hank actually gets it!

Atta' boy Hank!

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#752029 - 04/04/12 09:09 PM Re: The Court [Re: Salmo g.]
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I believe the court is made up of some pretty smart and dedicated legal professionals, regardless of their political leanings. I am all for Obama Care, but if the court over turns it, I can live with that. Besides, the next step is a better answer: Single Payer.
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#752032 - 04/04/12 09:36 PM Re: The Court [Re: ]
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That may be the eventual and inevitable result.

Fish on...

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#752037 - 04/04/12 10:03 PM Re: The Court [Re: ]
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It's inevitable Hank, even if it is 5 or ten years from now. If the mandate gets struck down then how else can you ensure that everyone has access to health care?

Your right for the near term; this batch of Republicans have no problem with people being denied insurance and thus access to health care.
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