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#767572 - 06/22/12 02:10 AM SCOTUS
IdahoSH Offline
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What will be the decision?
My guess 5-4
Maybe 6-3
Stuck down.

We could argue the individual mandate or severability clause aspects but let's keep it simple. stlslug and DanS can't handle complexities. Don't want to read a page of ramblin' non-sense from Todd either.
But you guys can vote.



Edited by IdahoSH (06/22/12 02:20 AM)
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#767573 - 06/22/12 02:12 AM Re: SCOTUS [Re: IdahoSH]
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5-4...waiting for Todd to snivel like a little bish. rofl

I've invested in some body bag stocks in Anticipation of the ruling. moose


Edited by Sol Duc (06/22/12 02:14 AM)
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#767582 - 06/22/12 02:41 AM Re: SCOTUS [Re: Sol Duc]
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Wont matter. President Kardashian will just issue an executive order.

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#767583 - 06/22/12 02:44 AM Re: SCOTUS [Re: Sol Duc]
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The body bag investment was a wise move.
The bedwetters around here will drop over like flies.
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#767588 - 06/22/12 03:19 AM Re: SCOTUS [Re: Fast and Furious]
IdahoSH Offline
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Never thought of that. thumbs
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#767610 - 06/22/12 10:50 AM Re: SCOTUS [Re: IdahoSH]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Originally Posted By: IdahoDickface
stlslug and DanS can't handle complexities


F.uck off.

That wasn't too complex for you to understand was it?

If so, just go kill yourself and then you won't have to spend all day sniveling like a little bitch.
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#767621 - 06/22/12 12:09 PM Re: SCOTUS [Re: Dan S.]
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Originally Posted By: Dan SucksAss
and spends all day sniveling like a little libtard bitch.


fixed it for ya
told ya to hang on to that nuk you'd need it

hey, you forgot to vote
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#767622 - 06/22/12 12:16 PM Re: SCOTUS [Re: IdahoSH]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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You're just a crying little bitch trying to make it look like everyone snivels like you do.

They don't, unless you're at a preschool at nap time. And the whining ones then are little kids. What's your excuse, other being a f'n whiner?

Start another crybaby thread, whiner. Find something else to snivel about. Or just set yourself on fire.
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#767630 - 06/22/12 12:28 PM Re: SCOTUS [Re: Dan S.]
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I always enjoy the respectful discussions we have here. This thread is a fine example.

I think that the law will be thrown out. There are some good parts of it, but overall ...How much of a burden on business, municipalities, counties etc is insuring children through age 26? Not even their parents have to support them that long. Try again.

+Nancy Pelosi liked it. It must be bad. They served this thing up like a very large suppository. "Just bend over, its for your own good"
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#767631 - 06/22/12 12:31 PM Re: SCOTUS [Re: IdahoSH]
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Originally Posted By: Dan SucksAss
and spends all day sniveling like a little libtard bitch.


oh my. break out those tampons and tissues now.
you're having a libtard menstrual breakdown.

I figured that voting thing would be too complex for ya.
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#767632 - 06/22/12 12:31 PM Re: SCOTUS [Re: GutZ]
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Hopefully they strike it down so the healthcare problem will be fixed.










rolleyes

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#767638 - 06/22/12 12:37 PM Re: SCOTUS [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
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It'll be 5-4, either way...IdahoSH, you're a fuckin tool, and a jackass to boot...your whining and complaining makes you like like a little b!tch, too.

Fish on...

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#767646 - 06/22/12 12:57 PM Re: SCOTUS [Re: GutZ]
IdahoSH Offline
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Originally Posted By: GutZ
I always enjoy the respectful discussions we have here. This thread is a fine example.

I think that the law will be thrown out. There are some good parts of it, but overall ...How much of a burden on business, municipalities, counties etc is insuring children through age 26? Not even their parents have to support them that long. Try again.

+Nancy Pelosi liked it. It must be bad. They served this thing up like a very large suppository. "Just bend over, its for your own good"

Originally Posted By: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D
Hopefully they strike it down so the healthcare problem will be fixed.

Thanks for getting back on track.
It will be best to strike it down. The bill is too cluttered up and burdensome. There are some real problems in healthcare that need addressed but in a new bill.
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#767651 - 06/22/12 01:01 PM Re: SCOTUS [Re: Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Todd is
a fuckin tool, and a jackass to boot.

thanks for the vote
I fixed your opinion
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#767652 - 06/22/12 01:03 PM Re: SCOTUS [Re: IdahoSH]
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". . . There are some real problems in healthcare that need addressed but in a new bill."

Yeah, but the Republican House won't introduce, debate, or even remotely consider anything, because they prefer the screwed up status quo. That's some good work, eh?

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#767656 - 06/22/12 01:07 PM Re: SCOTUS [Re: Salmo g.]
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i think it will be up held.
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#767665 - 06/22/12 01:34 PM Re: SCOTUS [Re: Salmo g.]
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Originally Posted By: Salmo g.
". . . There are some real problems in healthcare that need addressed but in a new bill."

Yeah, but the Republican House won't introduce, debate, or even remotely consider anything, because they prefer the screwed up status quo.


And that is EXACTLY the problem. Even getting a constructive debate about any of this is nearly impossible. Making any headway as far as actions is practically laughable.

To me, that was what was so impressive about Obama's effort. He actually got "something" done. In the end, the bill sucks but not for all the reasons that most people want to complain about. The problem is the lack of a "public option" that would provide a form of competition against the status quo. The way it worked out, insurance companies were the biggest winners of all.

The other factor in any debate about healthcare needs to be the realization that we are ALREADY paying for everyone. You ALREADY subsidize those without insurance BECAUSE we treat people without insurance in the most inefficient way possible.

It seems that you then have a couple of options.
Option 1: Don't treat anyone that doesn't have the money and/or insurance to pay for their treatment. While this DOES happen already for certain diseases and conditions, it DOES NOT happen for people dragged into the emergency room with blood dripping out of them. When it comes down to it, not even the most conserative folks are willing to stop treatment for those in need.

Option 2: Get as many people covered with insurance so that the burden is spread more evenly. Additionally, people with insurance are likely to be treated in a more efficient way in the sense that they go to the "doctor's office" before they end up in the "emergency room". Unfortunately, people are completely irresponsible and can't be trusted to voluntarily buy their own insurance. They either feel like they won't get sick or that it is their right to not be covered. The reality is that even these people DO get sick and, despite the pre-problem tough guy routine, they DO want treatment. The double-shame is that people in that category probably STILL wouldn't realize that the rest of us just saved their [Bleeeeep!] and would STILL be talking about how the "socialist government is taking over".

It is easy to play the cold-hearted, "let people die" role until it is YOU or someone you love that needs help. And that is regardless of whether you have insurance or not.

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