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#778180 - 08/11/12 08:52 PM will he help or hurt the ticket
larryb Offline
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Breaking news: Mitt Romney just picked tea party hero Paul Ryan as his running mate. And Romney may have just committed political suicide.

Paul Ryan is the author of the most extreme right-wing budget ever proposed in Congress. He wants to dismantle Medicare, privatize Social Security, and cut taxes for millionaires while raising taxes on the middle class.1

Simply put, the policies Paul Ryan stands for are politically toxic.
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#778183 - 08/11/12 08:57 PM Re: will he help or hurt the ticket [Re: larryb]
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I'm thinking the R's don't want to win......seriously.
They would rather dumbO continue with his ruinous ways than jump in now and be so obviously self serving.
Paul Ryan is a huge mistake, IMO.
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#778231 - 08/12/12 11:16 AM Re: will he help or hurt the ticket [Re: ]
Somethingsmellsf Offline
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Cutting the budget sounds good but can you really cut from the lowest demographic and give TAX CUTS to the rich?

Sounds like class warfare to me.



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#778259 - 08/12/12 03:18 PM Re: will he help or hurt the ticket [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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They've clearly given up on getting any independents or moderates...which means they've given up on winning.

Maybe Ryan is just getting experience to run again in four years.

Fish on...

Todd
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#778283 - 08/12/12 05:53 PM Re: will he help or hurt the ticket [Re: ]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
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They don't need your vote, Hank, you f'n donkey. Unless one of them comes over and sh!ts on your pillow and wipes his ass with your curtains, you're voting GOP.

They need my vote.

I voted for Ron Paul last time around, and Romney/Ryan doesn't really get me thinking that would be a better vote.

I cannot fathom that Obama/Biden and Romney/Ryan are the choices we're given. What a disgrace.

Corporate money has ruined our political system.
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#778388 - 08/13/12 07:22 AM Re: will he help or hurt the ticket [Re: ]
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Quote:
I cannot fathom that Obama/Biden and Romney/Ryan are the choices we're given. What a disgrace.


A quotable quote......from DanS. thumbs

an instant replay of our past governor's race mad


Edited by Slab Happy (08/13/12 07:41 AM)
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#778529 - 08/13/12 07:23 PM Re: will he help or hurt the ticket [Re: ParaLeaks]
Todd Offline
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Fish on...

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#778548 - 08/13/12 10:09 PM Re: will he help or hurt the ticket [Re: Todd]
Todd Offline
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What's The Donald's opinion?

On April 10, 2012:

"If they lose it will be the biggest single reason why the Republicans lost: the Ryan Plan. I think the worse thing [Romney] can do is strongly embrace that budget if he wants to get elected. This will be the single worst move in the Republican Party for many years. This is going to be catastrophic."

http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000083274&play=1

Today, August 13, 2012:

Via Twitter: "The Paul Ryan VP pick was a bold pick by Mitt Romney. Energizes the base and changes the trajectory of the race."

Well, we know what his opinion clearly was last April...Ryan and his budget would be an albatross around Romney's neck.

What does his tweet today mean?

I guess it could be argued that when he said it "changes the trajectory" of the race, he meant that it went from a kinda close race to a rout by Obama...but something tells me he was implying just the opposite.

Just as Romney will be asked repeatedly during the debates, perhaps The Donald should be asked this now:

Are you lying now, or were you lying then?

Fish on...

Todd
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#778554 - 08/13/12 10:37 PM Re: will he help or hurt the ticket [Re: Todd]
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A lawyer should ask that question. thumbs
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#778558 - 08/13/12 11:04 PM Re: will he help or hurt the ticket [Re: ParaLeaks]
Todd Offline
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No, a debate moderator should ask that question, and he should ask several others just like it:

1. Governor Romney, you have stated unequiviocally that you supported a woman's right to choose. You then stated that overturning Rowe v. Wade is a "cornerstone in the sanctity of life".

Were you lying in the first statement, or the second?

2. Governor Romney, you stated that "mandates are good" when discussing health care insurance. You then stated that health care mandates are "unConstitutional".

Were you lying in the first statement, or the second?

This can go on all night...and any moderator worth their salt will ask those questions.

As a matter of fact, any news person worth their salt should ask those questions between now and November...so, I'll go out on a limb and make a prediction right now:

You will not see Romney or Ryan interviewed by any news agency, anywhere, between now and the election, except for FoxNews, because besides not being an actual news agency, no one there will ask those questions.

Fish on...

Todd
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#778560 - 08/13/12 11:20 PM Re: will he help or hurt the ticket [Re: Todd]
ParaLeaks Offline
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Ah, there ya go again with all that one-sided stuff......

Think a few "lies on the campaign trail" could be found for your non-performer?
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#778563 - 08/13/12 11:59 PM Re: will he help or hurt the ticket [Re: ParaLeaks]
Todd Offline
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Perhaps, not surprisingly, you missed the topic of this thread...

"Will he help or hurt the ticket?"

That's why we're discussing Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney.

For you, it won't matter.

For the voters Romney needs, he signed his death knell...said voters being moderates and independents.

Fish on...

Todd
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#778567 - 08/14/12 12:07 AM Re: will he help or hurt the ticket [Re: Todd]
ParaLeaks Offline
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Everyone knows that a liar's answers mean nothing.....

Is this a "My liar is better than your liar" race?

I believe it is.

You?
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#778574 - 08/14/12 12:19 AM Re: will he help or hurt the ticket [Re: ParaLeaks]
Todd Offline
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No, it's a "will Ryan help or hurt the Romney ticket" sort of thread.

Romney's a documented pathological liar, and you right wingers equate "don't like Obama's policies" with "he's a liar"...which is patently false, and projection, and foolish to boot.

Fish on...

Todd
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#778575 - 08/14/12 12:37 AM Re: will he help or hurt the ticket [Re: Todd]
ParaLeaks Offline
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Anything right of you is right wing, and therein lies your error in judgment. You have an overbearing need for control of others.......and guess what?......it ain't happening. I suspect many can think for themselves with or without your omnipresent guidance.
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#778588 - 08/14/12 02:13 AM Re: will he help or hurt the ticket [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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Every time Slab competes, he wins.

He's like Usain Bolt, only in the Super Special Olympics.

In a race to the bottom he's got a lead that might well prove to be insurmountable.

Fish on...

Todd
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#778606 - 08/14/12 10:11 AM Re: will he help or hurt the ticket [Re: ]
ParaLeaks Offline
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Originally Posted By: Kanektok Kid
Shut the fuk up midget, and go back to seal felching


THAT little tidbit says about all that needs saying about you. crazy
Let me know when you dump that garbage can out that is filled with your life, will you? Because right now, it's overflowing and needs to be dumped.....badly.

Good Luck with that.
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#778620 - 08/14/12 11:30 AM Re: will he help or hurt the ticket [Re: ParaLeaks]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Not any more worked up about than any other Presidential election...but this is the Dark Side, and arguing with knuckleheads is why it exists wink

Fish on...

Todd

P.S. Don't tell them that Mitt's got virtually no chance...they've already embroidered his name on their BBQ aprons.
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#778631 - 08/14/12 12:10 PM Re: will he help or hurt the ticket [Re: ]
docspud Offline
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That kicks a$$ chuck.


Todd,

I know one of those piles seems to look shinier than the other but please remember, a shiny piece of s--- is still a piece of s---!
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#778655 - 08/14/12 01:27 PM Re: will he help or hurt the ticket [Re: docspud]
Somethingsmellsf Offline
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Paul Ryan’s Fairy-Tale Budget Plan


In short, Mr. Ryan’s plan is devoid of credible math or hard policy choices. And it couldn’t pass even if Republicans were to take the presidency and both houses of Congress. Mr. Romney and Mr. Ryan have no plan to take on Wall Street, the Fed, the military-industrial complex, social insurance or the nation’s fiscal calamity and no plan to revive capitalist prosperity — just empty sermons.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/14/opinion/paul-ryans-fairy-tale-budget-plan.html?_r=1&hp

Fishy
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I think name-calling is the right way to handle this one/Dan S

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