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#787406 - 09/20/12 06:28 PM Re: Acceptable violence and hate! [Re: ]
steelheader316 Offline
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Registered: 03/04/10
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Loc: Moscow, Idaho
Yes, I would disparage and condemn that behavior (like I would condemn the Spanish Inquisition, the Crusades, Catholic abuse scandals, and religious genocide everywhere); what I will not do is claim moral superiority based upon my Christian faith, merely because it is my faith, and simultaneously ignore the fact that every group has fanatics who commit atrocities.
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#787407 - 09/20/12 06:29 PM Re: Acceptable violence and hate! [Re: Todd]
HOOKUP Offline
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Registered: 01/26/09
Posts: 358
Originally Posted By: Todd


Inciting violence that results in dead Americans is stupid no matter how you cut it.

Fish on...

Todd


Limiting criticism or freedom of speech only empowers those who are threatening with violence. Deal with the problem, don't pretend it doesn't exist.

Anyone want to guess the life expectancy of a female from the middle east?

These people need to be educated, not being held hostage by the pages of a fairy tale.


Edited by HOOKUP (09/20/12 06:33 PM)

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#787408 - 09/20/12 06:31 PM Re: Acceptable violence and hate! [Re: HOOKUP]
steelheader316 Offline
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Registered: 03/04/10
Posts: 170
Loc: Moscow, Idaho
Originally Posted By: HOOKUP
Originally Posted By: Todd


Inciting violence that results in dead Americans is stupid no matter how you cut it.

Fish on...

Todd


Limiting criticism or freedom of speech only empowers those who are threatening with violence. Deal with the problem, don't pretend it doesn't exist.


Absolutely.
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#787411 - 09/20/12 06:37 PM Re: Acceptable violence and hate! [Re: ]
steelheader316 Offline
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Loc: Moscow, Idaho
Hank,

to your first question: not at the moment, but I'm sure there are religious atrocities going on at the moment that don't involve Muslims; to your second: doubtful.
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#787416 - 09/20/12 06:52 PM Re: Acceptable violence and hate! [Re: Todd]
Illyrian Offline
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Registered: 12/20/09
Posts: 1475
Loc: Spokane, wa
just curious Odd. Do you anticipate being a sad old man? If so you
have my sympathy. To be so afflicted and to look forward to being a
sad old man must be depressing.
I'm not sad altho I am a bit old. I can't keep up with the young
ones any more at hunt camp but I find a tree with a view to sit
under and if some venison comes my way. Bang The heart and
liver are especially good even tho I am supposed to stay away
from organ meat. Being an old man and all. lloll

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#787418 - 09/20/12 06:56 PM Re: Acceptable violence and hate! [Re: steelheader316]
Piper
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Originally Posted By: steelheader316
Hank,

to your first question: not at the moment, but I'm sure there are religious atrocities going on at the moment that don't involve Muslims; to your second: doubtful.


Westboro Baptist comes to mind... They just haven't upped their membership numbers to the point where they can start suicide bombings...


...give them time


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#787423 - 09/20/12 07:15 PM Re: Acceptable violence and hate! [Re: ]
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Posts: 1335
There is no acceptable violence but to sit idle and allow things to happen is almost just as bad. At least with the current extremist situations.

The more appauling thing that I see in this thread is a narrow scope on the World by some reasonably, dare I say, intelligent individuals. Islam is a HUGE religion that has influences in almost every country and to every border, yet the few, which is a small percentage of the total numbers cast a black eye on the whole Religion. People will argue and attack it for that reason, just as Todd views all Christians as assholes that hide behind a book.

This narrow view of Religion and the people of the World is a big contributor to the Worldly issues that we have today..

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#787424 - 09/20/12 07:16 PM Re: Acceptable violence and hate! [Re: steelheader316]
AP a.k.a. Kaiser D Offline
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Loc: B'ham
Originally Posted By: steelheader316
My favorite thing about PP is the strong sense of community and shared purpose. grin

For the record, as a Christian, I am embarrassed at prevalent "Christian" perspectives on things like homosexuality, women, environment, and government (to name a few). It seems to me that hating gay people for being who they are, subjugating women, denying global warming, and supporting candidates that actively seek the murder of civilians so defense contractors can make even larger profits doesn't exactly square with what I've read about Jesus. But hey, it's easier to hate and fear then be kind, compassionate and decent. Until Christians, including me, begin acting better and less hypocritical, we have no place to disparage Muslims, Jews, atheists or anyone else. Even then it's not my place at least 2cents



Rare to see something so well-stated on the Dark Site.

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#787427 - 09/20/12 07:24 PM Re: Acceptable violence and hate! [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
Krijack Offline
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Registered: 06/03/06
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Loc: Tacoma
I have said it before and will challenge any of you that think Christianity and Islaam are alike with this challenge. You name a predominately christian nation and I will glady where a t-shirt proclaiming what ever you want about christianity and walk proudly down the street. You just got to do the same with a shirt proclaiming the same about Mohammed in a predominately muslem nation.

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#787429 - 09/20/12 07:29 PM Re: Acceptable violence and hate! [Re: ]
RB3 Offline
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Registered: 08/24/10
Posts: 1335
I don't believe that Hank. Look at how people address Religion. It is human nature to key in on the negativity bias and that is what people do.

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#787433 - 09/20/12 07:39 PM Re: Acceptable violence and hate! [Re: ]
4Salt Offline
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Registered: 03/07/00
Posts: 2955
Loc: Lynnwood, WA
So then how do ya explain the 82% of white, conservative, evangelical Christians who think Islam is evil and that all Muslims wanna do is kill infidels Hank? huh

That's a pretty big chunk of the American citizenry. wink
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#787434 - 09/20/12 07:45 PM Re: Acceptable violence and hate! [Re: 4Salt]
Piper
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Originally Posted By: 4Salt
So then how do ya explain the 82% of white, conservative, evangelical Christians who think Islam is evil and that all Muslims wanna do is kill infidels Hank? huh

That's a pretty big chunk of the American citizenry. wink




Well duhhhhh

Fox News


I cant believe they even call it news...

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#787438 - 09/20/12 08:18 PM Re: Acceptable violence and hate! [Re: ]
AP a.k.a. Kaiser D Offline
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Registered: 01/31/02
Posts: 4450
Loc: B'ham
Originally Posted By: Hankster
If you want to put this into a crass, partisan slugfest...


Mr. Highroad now?

rofl

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#787439 - 09/20/12 08:22 PM Re: Acceptable violence and hate! [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
RB3 Offline
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Registered: 08/24/10
Posts: 1335
Egypt is one of the most Westernized Arab countries.. If they attack or swear off the West, how will they get their Air Jordans and Versace shirts?

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#787444 - 09/20/12 08:39 PM Re: Acceptable violence and hate! [Re: ]
Us and Them Offline
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Registered: 10/20/10
Posts: 1263
Loc: Seattle
weblo, the answer is in your mirror. They like you believe in something first and then seek out data to back uP their belief. Then they surround themselves with people that think like them and reinforce that belief.
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#787445 - 09/20/12 08:46 PM Re: Acceptable violence and hate! [Re: ]
Black Bart Offline
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Registered: 04/28/10
Posts: 307
Loc: Adna
Edgar... rastafarian gardens this time of year are a thing of beauty and something to behold. Kind of like seeing a late '60's lime green AMC Pacer in the parking lot next to where you work. All one can say is that....Dooood " it tis a thing of beauty "

Does Sig know you're posting from the internet cafe ?
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#787449 - 09/20/12 09:06 PM Re: Acceptable violence and hate! [Re: Black Bart]
Brewer Offline
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Registered: 01/11/07
Posts: 4898
Loc: in the mass production zone
there's 15 mins of my life wasted.
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#787451 - 09/20/12 09:16 PM Re: Acceptable violence and hate! [Re: ]
RowVsWade Offline
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Registered: 11/08/06
Posts: 3359
Loc: Island Time
I think it's how long it took him to think of what to write.
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#787454 - 09/20/12 09:23 PM Re: Acceptable violence and hate! [Re: RowVsWade]
Brewer Offline
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Registered: 01/11/07
Posts: 4898
Loc: in the mass production zone
for whats it worth religeon as a whole is a sham and money making racket. in the name of any god, it fuels hate of others. in the very near future goverments will kill religion, destroy all of it. otherwise no peace will ever be had.

this took 25 mins to peck out...
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#787459 - 09/20/12 09:39 PM Re: Acceptable violence and hate! [Re: ]
ParaLeaks Offline
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Registered: 01/11/03
Posts: 10363
Loc: Olypen
"We reject all efforts to denigrate the beliefs of others."

Who said that?

C'mon ....... Todd?
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