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#795885 - 10/30/12 11:37 AM CinC, the buck stops here. Oh No, not now
Illyrian Offline
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Benghazi: Symbol of Obama's Leadership

The first statements from the Obama administration about what happened in Benghazi seemed plausible. There were, after all, protests throughout the Muslim world on the anniversary of 9/11 — some incited by Islamists using an obscure video to arouse anti-American fervor in the mobs, and some, no doubt, just pelting U.S. embassies on general principles. When the administration explained that one of those protests had spun out of control and led to the murder of our ambassador and three other Americans in Libya, there seemed no reason to doubt it.

For a day. But within hours, the administration account deflated like a punctured balloon. CBS reported that there was no protest outside the consulate in Benghazi. Members of Congress who were briefed said the attack was a military-style assault. We learned that an al-Qaeda affiliate claimed responsibility for the attack. It was reported that Ambassador Stevens had noticed increased al-Qaeda activity, had feared for his safety, and had requested additional security, only to be turned down. Yet day after day, the administration continued to distort reality by referring to the Internet video.

Most of the press was willing to let the story fade because the man in charge is their man, and he is in a tight race for reelection. But Fox News, Eli Lake of The Daily Beast, and one or two others have revealed details about the administration's handling of the crisis that are beyond embarrassing — they verge on malfeasance.

According to Fox's Jennifer Griffin, former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods, who was part of a small team at the CIA safe house about a mile from the consulate, heard shots fired at 9:40 p.m. He urgently requested backup from the CIA and asked permission to head to the consulate to help. The request was denied three times. He and his team were told to "stand down."

Woods and others disobeyed orders and headed over to the consulate where they rescued several people and carried away the body of Sean Smith. They did not find the ambassador. Upon returning to the safe house, they again requested military back up and were again denied. They were soon under fire. The fighting there went on for four more hours. Washington was in constant touch with personnel in Benghazi through email. In addition, Griffin reports, a special operations force was stationed only 480 miles away at Naval Air Station Sigonella in Italy. They could have flown to Benghazi in less than two hours. The New York Post further reports that a military drone aircraft was over Benghazi at the time of the attacks, relaying real time information back to Washington.

President Obama told a Denver TV station, "I gave three very clear directives. Number one, make sure that we are securing our personnel and doing whatever we need to. Number two, we're going to investigate exactly what happened to make sure it doesn't happen again. Number three, find out who did this so we can bring them to justice."

Investigations can stretch on for a long time — certainly past Nov. 6. If the president gave such an order, why were urgent pleas for military support denied? Would the military defy the orders of the Commander in Chief? General David Petraeus says that the CIA never denied a request for help — which raises the question: Who else but the White House would have made such a decision?

Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta may have answered the question — and exposed Obama's claim of directing that our personnel be secured as false. Panetta explained,"[The] basic principle is that you don't deploy forces into harm's way without knowing what's going on, without having some real-time information about what's taking place. And as a result of not having that kind of information, the commander who was on the ground in that area, Gen. Ham, Gen. Dempsey and I felt very strongly that we could not put forces at risk in that situation."

Really? Is the Secretary of Defense really saying that we can't put forces at risk when Americans are already at risk and are being shot at? Why do we have a military again? Tyrone Woods certainly didn't have any doubt about what to do when Americans were under attack. He defied orders and rushed to help, sacrificing his own life. It's what any member of the armed forces would normally do — unless restrained by incompetent civilian authority.

By Mona Charen

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#795894 - 10/30/12 12:07 PM Re: CinC, the buck stops here. Oh No, not now [Re: Illyrian]
CedarR Offline
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Registered: 08/04/99
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The President and the wannabee have suspended their campaign for a couple of days. Should follow the example your "leader" has set...

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#795905 - 10/30/12 01:10 PM Re: CinC, the buck stops here. Oh No, not now [Re: CedarR]
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Originally Posted By: CedarR
The President and the wannabee have suspended their campaign for a couple of days. Should follow the example your "leader" has set...



ya, that's the ticket. If the Pres stops talking about the murder of Stevens and 3 others we should follow his lead
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#795911 - 10/30/12 01:34 PM Re: CinC, the buck stops here. Oh No, not now [Re: ]
CedarR Offline
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Originally Posted By: Chuck S.
Originally Posted By: CedarR
The President is using sandy to gain some lost momentum


fixed it for ya thumbs


Think of it as God voting early... wink

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#795939 - 10/30/12 03:12 PM Re: CinC, the buck stops here. Oh No, not now [Re: ]
Jerry Garcia Offline



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Now it all makes sense.
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#796065 - 10/30/12 09:00 PM Re: CinC, the buck stops here. Oh No, not now [Re: ]
ParaLeaks Offline
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Registered: 01/11/03
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How many ballots got washed away in the storm?
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#796070 - 10/30/12 09:25 PM Re: CinC, the buck stops here. Oh No, not now [Re: ParaLeaks]
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Hank - You musta been so busy droolin' over Megyn Kelly... you didn't even realize that FOX News preempted its hurricane coverage with an "in-depth expose" (just writing that makes me laugh) of the Benghazi incident. wink

What exactly is it you conservatives (here in general) think Obama wanted to have happen there? huh

Do you think he personally wanted the four Americans to be killed? help

Hey Slappy - word is that only Republican ballots got washed away... so you can go ahead and go apoplectic any time you wanna. cowboy
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#796101 - 10/30/12 10:49 PM Re: CinC, the buck stops here. Oh No, not now [Re: ]
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A president who really gave a crap what happened would have been all over it with a passion.

did I miss that?
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#796214 - 10/31/12 12:26 PM Re: CinC, the buck stops here. Oh No, not now [Re: 4Salt]
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Registered: 09/21/08
Posts: 843
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Originally Posted By: 4Salt
Hank - You musta been so busy droolin' over Megyn Kelly... you didn't even realize that FOX News preempted its hurricane coverage with an "in-depth expose" (just writing that makes me laugh) of the Benghazi incident. wink

What exactly is it you conservatives (here in general) think Obama wanted to have happen there? huh

Do you think he personally wanted the four Americans to be killed? help

Hey Slappy - word is that only Republican ballots got washed away... so you can go ahead and go apoplectic any time you wanna. cowboy


Spoken like someone who has Never Served and Been in Harm's Way lame

When Obozo wanted Bin Laden Dead, he called the SEALS,

When the SEALS Called Obozo for HELP all they got was a dial tone.


Edited by JohnQ (10/31/12 12:27 PM)
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#796340 - 10/31/12 05:40 PM Re: CinC, the buck stops here. Oh No, not now [Re: JohnQ]
4Salt Offline
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Registered: 03/07/00
Posts: 2955
Loc: Lynnwood, WA
Originally Posted By: JohnQ
Spoken like someone who has Never Served and Been in Harm's Way


Spoken like a brainless, right-wing dunce who doesn't have a phukking clue. rolleyes

Like pretty much everything you post. cowboy
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#796419 - 10/31/12 07:58 PM Re: CinC, the buck stops here. Oh No, not now [Re: 4Salt]
JohnQ Offline
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Registered: 09/21/08
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Originally Posted By: 4Salt
Originally Posted By: JohnQ
Spoken like someone who has Never Served and Been in Harm's Way


Spoken like a brainless, right-wing dunce who doesn't have a phukking clue. rolleyes

Like pretty much everything you post. cowboy


Go read some more of your Dim-Wit-O-Craps Talking Points shoot Oh right can't read, go sit on your Union Shop Steward's Lap butt watch out for that Bulge rofl


Edited by JohnQ (10/31/12 07:59 PM)
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Upstanding Member of the Porcupine Social Club, ergo, the Old Prick in the Upper Left Hand Corner.

AuntyM -- What Crab Audit???? Not That POS Senior AssHat Published!!!!

Hey Mr Childers, have you corrected that Scofflaw Spreadsheet Yet?????

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