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#800070 - 11/14/12 08:54 AM Re: So...after a week to think about it... [Re: Jerry Garcia]
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I've decided that U.S. stands for "U Stoopid"

I agree with Chuck S.

As a people, we have "evolved" into a country of irresponsible spenders.

Who's going to stand up and say, "Check, please!" ??????
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#800084 - 11/14/12 10:27 AM Re: So...after a week to think about it... [Re: Jerry Garcia]
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Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
I was surprised. Now I'm disappointed. I'm mostly a moderate in social issues and conservative fiscally.


Which is odd, since the Republican Party has proven that it is neither.

Fish on...

Todd
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#800087 - 11/14/12 10:29 AM Re: So...after a week to think about it... [Re: Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Todd
Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
I was surprised. Now I'm disappointed. I'm mostly a moderate in social issues and conservative fiscally.


Which is odd, since the Republican Party has proven that it is neither.

Fish on...

Todd




rofl That is no sh-t.
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#800111 - 11/14/12 11:46 AM Re: So...after a week to think about it... [Re: ]
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Yup. All of those CEO's, Exec's and board members in the good ol boy network who feel entitled to vast riches, mansions and Leer Jets even if they run a company into the ground costing everyone else their lively hood and placing the burden on the tax payer. Good idea.
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#800114 - 11/14/12 11:48 AM Re: So...after a week to think about it... [Re: stlhead]
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Problem seems to be that each party does nothing to change the situation. It is not sustainable and only getting worse.

Todd is right. The Rep party is no better than the dem when in control. They spend just like the Dems(just like the Dems before Obama anyway). The fiscal conservatives have no where to turn. Third parties that would cause real change can not even get a second look or coverage in the media. We are to busy talking about abortion and gay marriage to even realize the problem.

To busy finding someone else to blame and listening to partisan idiots on each side. Sad state of our country at this time.
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#800116 - 11/14/12 11:53 AM Re: So...after a week to think about it... [Re: docspud]
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However it isn't just the parties but the SCOTUS as well. Bought and paid for at all levels.
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#800117 - 11/14/12 11:55 AM Re: So...after a week to think about it... [Re: stlhead]
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I guess I understand that many were "surprised"...I'm hoping to find out why they were surprised...the polls and trends were clearly going exactly where the race ended up, yet many decided that the polls were a left wing conspiracy...how did you come to that conclusion?

You had to have accepted that conclusion to be surprised, didn't you?

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#800131 - 11/14/12 12:36 PM Re: So...after a week to think about it... [Re: Dogfish]
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I didn't believe Romney would win. I did have hope tho. Now no hope and no change just the sos for another 4 years.
It is kinda amusing to see the gloaters wallowing in their effluvia.
Too bad Romney didn't buss the Hispanic derriere, that would have
probably given him the election without the other 47%.
Does that answer any pertinent questions for you Odd?

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#800146 - 11/14/12 01:06 PM Re: So...after a week to think about it... [Re: Illyrian]
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Originally Posted By: Illyrian

Does that answer any pertinent questions for you Odd?


Yes...apparently you are the only right wingnut here who didn't actually think Romney was going to win. I didn't peg you as the one wingnut who might have some grip, no matter how tenuous, on reality...so now I'm surprised.

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#800148 - 11/14/12 01:07 PM Re: So...after a week to think about it... [Re: Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Todd
Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
I was surprised. Now I'm disappointed. I'm mostly a moderate in social issues and conservative fiscally.


Which is odd, since the Republican Party has proven that it is neither.

Fish on...

Todd



The Demo party is better on fiscal issues?
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#800150 - 11/14/12 01:09 PM Re: So...after a week to think about it... [Re: Jerry Garcia]
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If they do truly tax and spend that's a much better policy then don't tax and spend isn't it?
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#800151 - 11/14/12 01:09 PM Re: So...after a week to think about it... [Re: Jerry Garcia]
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Yes. And they also absolutely kill the Republican Party on social issues.

Where the hell have you been the last twenty five years?

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#800154 - 11/14/12 01:15 PM Re: So...after a week to think about it... [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: 2MANY
Originally Posted By: stlhead
Yup. All of those CEO's, Exec's and board members in the good ol boy network who feel entitled to vast riches, mansions and Leer Jets even if they run a company into the ground costing everyone else their lively hood and placing the burden on the tax payer. Good idea.



Why in the hell would anyone allow themselves to be in that vulnerable of a position to be victimized in the first place?
Perhaps they should have protected their "lively hood" instead of counting on someone else to do that for them.

When entering the game of life...............always wear your jockstrap.
Unless of course you plan on blaming someone else for your ignorance.




OK, now I get it . When a steel mill gets moved to china ,put on your jock strap.

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#800156 - 11/14/12 01:20 PM Re: So...after a week to think about it... [Re: Keta]
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He meant you shouldn't work so that you don't get put into the position of being laid off when the upper echelon decides to take the money and run.
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#800183 - 11/14/12 02:13 PM Re: So...after a week to think about it... [Re: stlhead]
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Originally Posted By: stlhead
Yup. All of those CEO's, Exec's and board members in the good ol boy network who feel entitled to vast riches, mansions and Leer Jets even if they run a company into the ground costing everyone else their lively hood and placing the burden on the tax payer. Good idea.


Why them sumbitches!!!

Just tax the fuk out of them and send their companies to China that will learn them fukers!!!!
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#800184 - 11/14/12 02:16 PM Re: So...after a week to think about it... [Re: Timber]
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Or status quo...don't tax them while they move to China and send US workers onto the unemployment or welfare lines.
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#800189 - 11/14/12 02:23 PM Re: So...after a week to think about it... [Re: stlhead]
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Originally Posted By: stlhead
Or status quo...don't tax them while they move to China and send US workers onto the unemployment or welfare lines.


Them rich fukers arent spreading the wealth!!!

Wonder how many people were employed by the building of the leer jet and mansion?

How dare them fukers get rich in this country!!!!
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#800205 - 11/14/12 02:50 PM Re: So...after a week to think about it... [Re: ]
AP a.k.a. Kaiser D Offline
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Todd, Ryley is the only one who answered your question and he did it on the Romney thread. He was wrong but at least had a reason behind his thoughts:

Originally Posted By: Sky-Guy
What you are seeing with the large R turnout is based on these principles:
There is not one person who voted for John McCain last time who will switch and vote for Obama this time.
There are many previous Obama supporters who plan to vote for Romney.
Republicans who stayed home four years ago rather than vote for McCain are not going to stay home again.
Many will vote not because of Romney, but in spite of Romney. They want no more of Obama and his policies.
Thats why I voted the way I did in Rouges thread.


The most relevant thing that was wrong was the "Republicans who stayed home four years ago rather than vote for McCain are not going to stay home again." I simply didn't believe that and stated a long time ago that the evangelicals would NEVER fully support Romney in terms of effort and money due to him being a mormon (They just VERY recently changed their language so they don't have to call Mormonism a cult). They fully propped up Republican candidates in several of the previous elections and were strong advocates for getting out the vote in their own communities. They actually kind of pulled a double-whammy of steering the party to the right and away from a lot of potenital voters AND then not even giving full support to their candidate.

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#800212 - 11/14/12 03:10 PM Re: So...after a week to think about it... [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: 2MANY
America- The land of opportunity.

Whatever you want is out there. All you need to do is go and get it.
Unfortunatly 2many choose to not.


Most Americans want to work. Do you really not understand how globalization is a driving force in lowering the American standard of living ( that means working harder for less, you like that I guess) for everyone but the .01%? Maybe it's too complex for a person making the above simplistic statement. Oh well.

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#800220 - 11/14/12 03:58 PM Re: So...after a week to think about it... [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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AP, I agree...Ryley was wrong, but at least he tried to back up his thoughts with some sort of analysis.

It's all the guys...you know who you are...who were saying we would all be "surprised" when Romney won, that it would be a close one, but a win for Romney, that Romney was going to get 330 EC votes, that I was wrong (when I predicted very closely exactly what happened...the only state I missed was FL which I thought would be close, but Romney would win).

What those guys were basing their beliefs on is what I'm looking for.

Dick Morris, Rush Limbaugh, and Charles Krauthammer were all saying the same thing, only they were basing their statements on "the polling I've seen" (which strangely enough was not even remotely close) and that the pollsters were all lying to us to suppress the right wing vote (probably the biggest pile of schit comment ever made by any of those shittalkers)...so I'm also wondering how the guys here came to the same conclusions.

I'm guessing they just read what Krauthammer or Ollie had to say and substituted that for any kind of actual thought...which would be very true to form for most right wingers.

Fish on...

Todd
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