It it just me, or can defensive players no longer lay a great hit on someone without getting a flag thrown on them?
I saw it called multiple times today and none looked illegal to me.
Here is a example of what I'm talking about from today.
What is the db supposed to do, just let the guy catch the ball?

the pussification of america is in full swing... and it aint just football...

The way to deal with a defenseless player is to tell them to defend themselves.

It's getting way out of hand.

...or have them wear flags....or a Cardinals uniform.

An example of this happened in the Hawk's game today. Sidney Rice caught a pass over the middle and was met with a clean shot to the chest.

Of course the ref threw a flag and penalized the Cardinal that put the hit on him.

I'm a Hawks fan and thought the call was [Bleeeeep!].

Senseless hit. The refs got the call right.

They need to fine em into submission .

Mf

Yep!...same thing with the steerqueers game. I guess if you get hit and have bigas.sed dreadlocks just throw you raggedy head backwards and watch the flags fly.

More like a senseless penalty.......

Agreed.

But I think you quick replied and were directing that to magicfly...

I happen to catch that hit on Rice. It was another senseless hit. I was glad to see neither hurt.

Mf

Dude....either you're getting soft and pus.sified or trying to pull some chains here.

You can't be f.ucking serious????????????

Good hit. NFL might as well switch over and let the lingere league take over.

DanS would be all over that....as long as the players stayed the same....only the attire was changed.

I've recently started watching a bit of the NFL again.... Too violent, and toooo many senseless hits. But since the league has started cracking down, I've been tuning in a little more. The League is getting it right so far. Imo

Mf

'Too violent'....I'm gonna' have to quit with this thread because I'm afraid of saying something I'll regret in the morning.

LOL.

probably thinks the Cougs would have a better chance at a winning season if hard hitting was outlawed.

This is the direct result of pending concussion lawsuits.

Never hurts to wrap a guy up when tackling either.

Next we'll be calling tackles "hugs".

In the case of Shawn Lynch, "group hugs".



The hit on Rice was incredible............and very legal.

I'm sure there will be fewer fans if they take away the violence in football.........and without fans.........we'll be seeing how much money is dumped watching tennis.

Football is going to have to change. The legal liability from ex-players dieing far too early is untenable for the NFL. It is not difficult to hit hard and legal without leading with your head above the waist. It is also a far more effective method of tackling. When I lived in New Zealand I watched a much more violent sport, Rugby, played with no helmets. The guys played clean (for the most part) and tough. Maybe we should eliminate helmets for football????

touche'

the fake cry babies in soccer piss me off

and baseball?...... ho humm.....let me know when the world series is on, then maybe

So did I, except for spinning the ball....the getting up part, is called adrenaline. Although he's probably wishing he had some about now. lol

Mf

True on both statements.

Mf

Well said. I've seen positive changes, and not all are going to agree....

Mf

I thought professional football is the modern day gladiators. The NFL should increase the violence, not decrease it. Violence sells and sells big in the US. Just look at the appetite for it in this thread alone. The nation that won't stand for a public execution laps up pro football. The ratings would probably go even higher if there was guaranteed bloodshed every Sunday of the season, with regular dismemberment and death on the field. That would also increase the number of job openings in football as well. We have a lot in common with Rome at its apex. Win-win all around.

Salmo sounds like a guy who might snap a spey rod over his knee and stab you in the eye with it.

Dan,

Have you ever seen the Coliseum? From the inside it inspires rage, just for the h3ll of it.

Stam,

I'll never get how Nascar fits in there, but I don't much understand the South at any level.

Except for the fact that the NFL has been attempting to protect the offensive side of the ball for the last decade and the fans keep going to games and watching. TV numbers are way up everywhere so the fans don't seem to mind the change in rules.

IN the case of the Sydney Rice hit, if the defender just uses his arms to wrap Rice up while blasting him with his shoulder, he would stand just as good a chance of separating the ball from Rice and probably wouldn't have drawn a flag either. Standing over Rice after the hit didn't help the defenders case either.

New study released today will change football forever. CTE was found in a disproportionate number of football player brains studied. Something like 68% of footballers had signs of the disease said to be caused by repeated blows to the head. Most blows were probably not concussive. A couple of medical groups will come out short recommending non contact for kids under 14. Once that is validated in the medical community insurance will get real expensive. All of the city leagues and school dist will not be able to afford the insurance against NFL type law suits. Btw it includes heading a soccer ball.

UFC and Boxing is still good?

No chit...those poor NFL players just don't make enough money to justify the chances they take.

I mean look at Bob Costas...that guy's a fu.ckin brain dead little douchewad and he never played football. Maybe a little headboard bangin' with him and his boyfriend (not that there's anything wrong with that anymore) but no serious physical activity.

Sorry guy's, no Theismann type hits tonight....

Mf

Add Brent Mushberger to that list...

If they didn't play the sport, they shouldn't be able to call the game!!!

"Shaken Gladiator" Syndrome

The NFL isn't necessary.

The easy way to prevent injury on the football field is to stay off of it.

I think he should have given him and hug and a kiss.

What made it not a good hit? The QB's hat came off? It looked nasty? He didn't just pull the QB's flag to down him?

Spearing?

So you're blind as well as old.............and kind of a sissy?

Start watching soccer, Sally. Football is not for you.

So tell me, Einstein..........what does a player, or ANY f'n human for that matter, lead with?

Their f'n head!!!

How do you lead with another part of your body?!? Maybe they should launch feet-first, huh? That QB got blown up by that player's shoulder, the head contact was incidental.

Face it, Hank..............you're a soccer fan. Football isn't for you.

No he didn't, Sally.

You're f'n blind AND a sissy to boot.

I suggest YOU stop watching football because you're too big of sissy.

Soccer is more your game.

Really wanna see what kind balls NFL players have? Have them play in Aussie Rules uniforms.

many of us played tackle football without all the gear. I bet the injury rate, after after an initial spike, would drop. And there would still be hard hits.

Hey Hank,

I'm not too blind to see you're not man enough for football.

That's why soccer has become more popular lately...........lots of sissies like you need a game to play.

Awww.

You mad, bro?



Tissue?

Wow, you two are unbelievable!

Only one true way to settle this....replay the down.

Hank gets a 20' running start....and Dan gets the ball.....on 3....break.

Mf

P.S. Hanks call if he wants helmets or not.

lol

A hit from you isn't scary. I played football with men who weren't soccer fans.

You'd better stick to riding the pine so you don't get killed, Sally.

My $$$ is on Dan S.

So you've turned soft with age, huh?

I get it.

You're a sissy.

Why are you making this more complicated than it is?

One of us was saying football was too rough.

It wasn't me.

YOU are the soccer-sissy.

Hope this helps.

Yeah.............you did.

Face it, you're old, soft, senile, and better suited to watch soccer than football.

Why don't you make me scamper along, champ?

That's good $hit right there.

Mf

Tough enough, Hank.

So is my kid.

He isn't a soccer fan like you.

OK.

Yer a soccer sissy.

Yes, I've told him.

Many times.

Stam, just in case you were wondering who should be included on your "Biggest Pussy of 2012" poll, should you choose to make one...start on this thread

Might be a two pager.

Fish on...

Todd

I just read these last two pages......very nice.

Dan, you're a dumfk. That hit on the QB was spearing, just like Hank said. The difference between trying to hurt someone and trying to end the play is drastically different. Don't tell me you don't get that.

Football is not about hurting the opponents, some get hurt, but when that is the goal, it's out of line.

Shut up, pussy. Go watch a soccer game and check your tampon.

Your OPINION is the play was spearing, but we already know that your opinion is bullsh!t most of the time. You call it spearing, I call it blowing up the QB. IMO, the blow was delivered by the defender's shoulder and chest, not his head. The NFL seems to agree with you, which is why this thread was started.........because they're pussies. I see you've decided to join them.

Maybe when Hank retires up here, you two ladies can get together and knit and discuss soccer.

You must be trying to convince yourself.......because you are obviously wrong.......and you know it.

Tonight you impress no one of consequence........your choice.

Check your sugar level...........you ain't yersef.

You already made the case that you're a pussy earlier in the thread, Hank.

No need for redundancy.

KK......you go long.

Shut up, slabby.

What I know is you're a dumbfuck.

The rest of the bullsh!t on this thread is opinion.

Dan, take another look.

Mf

You just love to state an opinion and label it as fact, don't you?

You're full of sh!t, soccer-puss. Did you forget about the bounty program at New Orleans? Do you think THAT coach wouldn't buy you a steak dinner for blowing up a QB like that?

My god you're a woman.

Diabetic Danny boy was too damn small to play football, so he joined the chess team.

Mf,

I took another look.

Looks like a badass hit and a QB that should get rid of the ball quicker to me.

Big enough to deal with a pussy like you, Sol Dickless.

Hey - fuckhead - read your stupid quote. Here it is if you're too fuckin' stupid to remember:



So the coach that got fired.........do you think he EVER told his team to hunt heads? Do you think other coaches have done the same fuckin' thing and not been caught?

Now shut that cocksucker on your face before you make yourself look dumber and more like a pussy than you already have.

We have our own ITG?

7-11 parking lot.

It's go time, you f'er!

Without doubt a cheap shot, and not even close.

Is that 7-11 near a Hospital? That way as a courtesy I could drag you there to get stitched up and what not. :>)

Hank - you seem to be frothing. It's because you're frustrated that you're a huge pussy, isn't it?

Hank, the guy sniveling about football being too rough and violent, is now talking about dudes and washing balls.

And he lives in San fran.

Shocking.

Good discussion so far.
Are there cheap shots in the NFL, sure there are. There has always been those types of plays. When those plays happen throw the flag and move on. Just make sure it deserves a flag, because what I've seen lately is a bunch of bs calls on good hard physical plays. The NFL has gone way overboard, to a point where guys can't lay a good solid hit on someone without worrying about getting fined of suspended. It is a game played by special athletes at high speeds. More guys are going to get hurt going half speed if they have to think about whether every hit will result in a flag or fine.

Did anyone happen to catch all the fines levied by the league last week. It was a ridiculously long list. Just a few years ago very few if any of those plays would have resulted in fines. They are killing what made the league great in the first place.

That was passed for the homos that already moved up from Cali.

You don't have a wife, do you, Hank? Any kids?

Thanks for the laugh, Chuck!

As per usual of late, good start gone to crap.

The little people got their attention.

I'm out of it.

Reefer...I think I saw your Mom on T.V ? Does she play for the Vikings?

Got to 7-11 early, purchased a bag of popcorn, grabbed a good seat. Dan S showed up, did a little shadow boxing to warm up and for a little guy he is lightning quick, and I waited. Finished the popcorn and waited. Finally we declared Dan the victor and left.

Lucky Dan, Smart Sol Duc

Just curious....... was it followed by a Big Gulp?