#806927 - 12/12/12 02:39 PM
Re: Mad in Michigan
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Dick Nipples
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Benefits are a real expense to an employer and a customer.
+1 And I bet you specifically search out jobs that offer no benefits in order to save your employer, and the world in general, money, right? Yeah...right. Fish on... Todd
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#806931 - 12/12/12 02:43 PM
Re: Mad in Michigan
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
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What is fair about losing the product of multiple generations of blood and sweat left to take care of future generations?
The fact is I will lose contralling interest in MY grandfather's business because I can't afford to pay the tax on what he has left me. I will have to liquidate property, in a down economy, to generate the cash and that will leave distant cousins in control. they didn't have to pay at 55% years ago when their shares transferred.
I expect that to all fall on deaf ears because the many that have nothing expect those that EARNED something to pay for the fact they don't, can't and wouldn't anyways.
My forfeited money will probably be spent paying prevailing wage to a bunch of over paid roadworkers that think they entitled to it.
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#806936 - 12/12/12 02:55 PM
Re: Mad in Michigan
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 11/01/06
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Come on Todd,
Explain to all of us why the death tax is not high enough at 55% and how we owe that at least to our government masters. Give us a quick rundown about historic death tax rates and how we should be happy to pay 55% rather than something in the high 70's.
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#806937 - 12/12/12 02:59 PM
Re: Mad in Michigan
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
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Loc: Browns Point,Wa. USA
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As an employer watch my costs and as a customer I... ahhh... watch my costs. I seek services based on cost and quality and benefits are part of those costs and competition keeps those costs low.
You self affirming question is impractical doesn't even make sense Todd.
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#806938 - 12/12/12 03:01 PM
Re: Mad in Michigan
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River Nutrients
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Those most concerned would certainly benefit from a good finacial advisor along with a healthy dose of foresight. I am ahead of you there... noted though. The question is what exactly makes 55% fair?
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#806939 - 12/12/12 03:02 PM
Re: Mad in Michigan
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Dick Nipples
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docspud, I'll answer your question when you find where I even mentioned the "death tax".
Until then you can answer my question.
JTD, those who whine about the high costs of benefits, yet seek out jobs that offer those very same high cost benefits are hypocrites.
Either seek out jobs with no benefits in order to save all the rest of us money, or STFU.
Fish on...
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#806942 - 12/12/12 03:13 PM
Re: Mad in Michigan
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River Nutrients
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Loc: Browns Point,Wa. USA
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docspud, I'll answer your question when you find where I even mentioned the "death tax".
Until then you can answer my question.
JTD, those who whine about the high costs of benefits, yet seek out jobs that offer those very same high cost benefits are hypocrites.
Either seek out jobs with no benefits in order to save all the rest of us money, or STFU.
Fish on...
Todd As an employer I should seek out a job that doesn't pay benefits or STFU huh... Still doesn't make sense. Now call me stupid and insult my mom- that would be the only acceptable response in lieu of an answer and it is what I come to expect on The Darkside.
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#806949 - 12/12/12 03:31 PM
Re: Mad in Michigan
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
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JTD, you'll note above, should you care to actually calm thefuck down and read it, that I am quoting f4b agreeing with you that benefits cost employers money.
Noshit, Sherlock. They're not free.
I'm just inviting anyone who complains about that and doesn't seek out a job where there are no benefits in order to save us all a bunch of money are hypocrites.
Is that you? If so, then you're a hypocrite.
If not, then I'm not even talking to you.
Fish on...
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#807026 - 12/12/12 07:31 PM
Re: Mad in Michigan
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River Nutrients
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So many dumfks here. Nobody is calling for a 55% estate tax. Not Obama and not your beloved Repugs. Obama wants a $3,500,000 exemption and 45% tax rate. I suppose it's nice to see so many of you, for being such idiots, stand to inherit over $3.5 mil. I'm sure whatever share you are left with you'll squander it. If you are really worried about the tax becoming 55% then maybe you need to apply some pressure to your beloved tea party.
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#807054 - 12/12/12 08:32 PM
Re: Mad in Michigan
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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Every dollar is taxed multiple times...dozens of times.
I bet you guys are the ones who would win Lotto, and then whine about having to pay millions in taxes...after getting millions in free dollars.
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#807060 - 12/12/12 08:46 PM
Re: Mad in Michigan
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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What other money do you make, with your sweat and equity, that is taxed?
Fish on...
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P.S. Hint: all of it.
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#807064 - 12/12/12 08:52 PM
Re: Mad in Michigan
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
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Which brings me back to my original point...what the fukk does that have to do with the topic at hand?
Fish on...
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#807070 - 12/12/12 09:01 PM
Re: Mad in Michigan
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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Why not make it 100%?
That way you can earn your own f'n money.
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#807107 - 12/12/12 11:37 PM
Re: Mad in Michigan
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Wow read all the posts up to this point and I can see neither side will win here. Someone put it real simple on here there are good unions and ones that drive themselves into the ground just like there are unrepresented businesses. Hank I think you mentioned something about neighboring states that were succeeding. Do you really think it’s because the cost of instate labor is too high? With all this money being cut it will still find its way into someone’s pocket; politicians to start then lobbyists, and the business owners. It’s really simple. If you think of two gas stations across the street from each other. One station sets there price at $1 and the other at $1 they both get rewarded for the gas they sell and both are happy. But if one decides to get greedy and cut price down to .80 the other must reduce their profit to at least .80. Instead of the gas station owner taking the hit he just reduces his workers benefits and wages. This is becoming a fight to the bottom and pure socialism.
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#807111 - 12/13/12 12:02 AM
Re: Mad in Michigan
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Poodle Smolt
Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10878
Loc: McCleary, WA
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Paris Hilton contributes nothing to the world.
How dare you, Sir. How dare you.
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#807112 - 12/13/12 12:04 AM
Re: Mad in Michigan
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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Sheesh, Andy...it's not like he told you that Sarah Palin was worthless.
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#807113 - 12/13/12 12:04 AM
Re: Mad in Michigan
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ExtenZe Field Tester
Registered: 11/10/09
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Loc: Vancouver, WA
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I was responding to shthead's post. I'm guessing you're his spokesperson. Funny schitt right there.
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