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#818589 - 01/29/13 02:48 PM Voter Fraud!
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#818593 - 01/29/13 03:05 PM Re: Voter Fraud! [Re: Todd]
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"If Ms. Rubin was trying to demonstrate how easy it is to commit voter fraud, she clearly failed and proved just the opposite."

Maybe she was just so tramatized by marauding Black Panthers that she just forgot she'd already voted?

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#818595 - 01/29/13 03:28 PM Re: Voter Fraud! [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
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My guess was that she was mystified by a Kenyan witch doctor to make her attempt to vote twice, lie to poll workers, and then blame it on someone else.

I like how there are two ways to go about getting a bigger chunk of the vote in order to win national elections:

1. Promote policies that the majority of Americans support; or

2. Reduce the amount of voters that won't support your policies, or gerrymander districts so that you can win with policies that are not supported by the majority of Americans.

Which one do you think Republicans have chosen? How well do you think it will work?

Go to the "I hope it works" thread to see what the wingnuts here prefer...it's clearly #2, which aligns them perfectly with about 30% of America, and the Republican Party.

I wish them luck, and hope that true conservatives can rise from the ashes and get a party of their own that isn't run by religious fruitcakes or TeaParty idiots.

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#818602 - 01/29/13 03:46 PM Re: Voter Fraud! [Re: ]
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If you believe that the GOP has any interest in stopping giving away tax dollars to private people and businesses then you are even stupider than I thought. They're the biggest gift givers of all.

Just keep on keepin' on...too much gun violence? We need more guns! Trickle down economics enriched the very rich and screwed the other 99% of us? Let's just do it some more, only more intensely...I'm sure it will work this time!

Can't win with women? Let's restrict womens' access to birth control, their own health decisions, and vote against giving them equal pay.

Can't win with Latinos? Let's call them lazy criminals and harp on "self-deportation" and digging a moat with alligators in it along the border.

Can't win with blacks? Let's try and deny as many of them as possible the right to vote.

Having your party co-opted by religious nuts and ignorant fools? Let's pander to them instead of the other groups that could actually help us win elections.

Sounds like a winning plan to me...and I'm not surprised in the least that the wingnuts here actually believe it to be.

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#818608 - 01/29/13 03:55 PM Re: Voter Fraud! [Re: ]
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The problem is that the stuff I put in my post, Hank, is the truth...your post is just the FauxNews Rush Dumbaugh talking point that's a pile of crap...but, hey, just keep on saying it while doing all that great stuff in my previous post...as noted before, it's been working so great that the GOP should really stick with it.

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#818614 - 01/29/13 04:05 PM Re: Voter Fraud! [Re: ]
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I think you should go ahead and encourage your party to keep saying that...even though the majority on public assistance are already voting for them, it can't really make it any worse for the party.

I'd say making retarded statements that only appeal to the old white men is a winning strategy, Republicans just haven't really committed themselves to it yet...if they'd only ramp up the rhetoric another 10 or 20 percent I bet it will *really* work next time!

Looking forward to watching the Republican Party rise like a Phoenix from the ashes by doing exactly what they've been doing, only more!

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#818616 - 01/29/13 04:09 PM Re: Voter Fraud! [Re: ]
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How did that 49% vote?

You have no idea, so stop pretending they all voted Democrat.
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#818619 - 01/29/13 04:12 PM Re: Voter Fraud! [Re: ]
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I Like this comment on the story, "for her next tirck will she apply for welfare, drug herself up and take a pee test to try and prove all people on welfare are on drugs?
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#818622 - 01/29/13 04:15 PM Re: Voter Fraud! [Re: Jason Beezuz]
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Hey wankster, you of all people should know to not post links to the liberally biased lame stream media NY Times.
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#818623 - 01/29/13 04:17 PM Re: Voter Fraud! [Re: ]
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Hmmm...those charts show that old white men, religious zealots, and self-proclaimed conservatives are the Republican voting base.

Now there's a big fuckin surprise.

Note to Republicans: You already own the old white conservative religious nut vote.

It has proven unable to win you a national election.

You will have to do it by making inroads in other demographics.

To do so you must stop purposely offending those other demographics in order to please the one demographic that you already own.

Now to most this kind of stuff would seem pretty goddammed obvious, but to the Republican Party it clearly it is not very obvious. Perhaps they think minority women are striving to join as part of the old white conservative religious nut demographic, they just need a good party to show them the way.

Perhaps they believe that Latinos and blacks will all of a sudden become old, white, and conservative, too, so that what they are doing will suddenly appeal to Latinos and blacks, too.

Those are pretty solid possibilities, so I again encourage the Republican Party to keep pandering to the old white religious conservative males...I mean, it's not like that demographic is getting smaller or anything...women, minorities, and progressives are just flocking to it as fast as they can run.

Good luck!

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#818628 - 01/29/13 04:30 PM Re: Voter Fraud! [Re: ]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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lol
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#818630 - 01/29/13 04:35 PM Re: Voter Fraud! [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
One of the things it shows is Romney got the majority of votes from all voters making 50K and above.


I think you should really encourage the Republican Party to add that to their list of achievements.

You'd think since that is the one, single...and only...demographic that the Republicans appeal to that could actually get bigger that they might try to make it get bigger.

They've failed on that, too, of course.

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#818646 - 01/29/13 04:58 PM Re: Voter Fraud! [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Hankster

Listen, dipschidt. I'll take you a lot more seriously if you can somehow dispense with "wankster". wink


Tell you what, if the 9ers win on Sunday, which I think is likely, I will never call you by that name again. If they lose, I will call you by that name FOREVER.
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#818647 - 01/29/13 04:59 PM Re: Voter Fraud! [Re: ]
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Ah...I see.

Everyone who makes under $50K is on public assistance and voted for free schidt.

You should really make sure that the Republicans add that to their party platform, too...it's a real winner, just like all the rest of the "bright ideas" on this thread.

I swear, the majority of Republican voters will be looked at as false flag Democrats in twenty years...it's like they are purposely trying to sabotage their own party.

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#818653 - 01/29/13 05:22 PM Re: Voter Fraud! [Re: ]
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Hank,

The over $50k is just another way of saying the GOP appeals to old white guys. They are the demographic in the US most likely to have larger than average incomes. And although larger in number than the 1%ers, they have in common with them the attribute of being in the minority. You appear to be missing or avoiding the major weakness of the Rs, they've built a platform of policies that won't and cannot be supported by a majority.

McCain spoke well on this the other day, saying that Hispanics tend to have strong family values, be religious, and hard-working and non-gov't. dependent, so they have much in common with the Rs. However the Rs do all they can to chase away the Hispanic vote with all the self-deportation, build a bigger fence, and putting their relatives on a bus back to Mexico stuff. Latino votes for the taking, yet the GOP lets its teabaggers and religious whackos chase it away.

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#818654 - 01/29/13 05:30 PM Re: Voter Fraud! [Re: Salmo g.]
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Originally Posted By: Salmo g.
Hank,

The over $50k is just another way of saying the GOP appeals to old white guys. They are the demographic in the US most likely to have larger than average incomes. And although larger in number than the 1%ers, they have in common with them the attribute of being in the minority. You appear to be missing or avoiding the major weakness of the Rs, they've built a platform of policies that won't and cannot be supported by a majority.

McCain spoke well on this the other day, saying that Hispanics tend to have strong family values, be religious, and hard-working and non-gov't. dependent, so they have much in common with the Rs. However the Rs do all they can to chase away the Hispanic vote with all the self-deportation, build a bigger fence, and putting their relatives on a bus back to Mexico stuff. Latino votes for the taking, yet the GOP lets its teabaggers and religious whackos chase it away.

Sg


Steve, talking sense will get you nowhere with the Republinuts, clearly...

They have one single demographic that they own, and they still spend all their time alienating all the others they need to pander to the one that they don't need to pander to because it is not going to leave.

They make zero arguments to get those folks, only offend them more and more every day.

They are, in a word, fuckingstupid.

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#818659 - 01/29/13 05:58 PM Re: Voter Fraud! [Re: ]
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Rubio is the one who has a better message and may be able to get someone...anyone...in the GOP to listen to it. That remains to be seen. Being "soft" on immigration in the next month or so won't score him any points with the key demographic of angry old white men, the ones who oppose anything but moats and firing squads when it comes to immigration reform.

The Cubans are somewhat pro-GOP because they are both anti-Castro...Castro won't be along much longer and the GOP will have to have something else to offer them.

"Family values" are indeed conservative values...they're also progressive values, and American values. Every time the GOP touts that they *are* the family values party some dude gets caught sending gay pics to an underage staffer, cheating on his wife (repeatedly), or getting yet another divorce. They should really stop saying that they are for "family values" and just say they are "anti-abortion", since that's the only "family value" that they have all for themselves.

The rest are everyone's, and it's a fair bet that everyone else is at least as good at doing them as the GOP, and in many cases better...far better.

Fish on...

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#818662 - 01/29/13 06:20 PM Re: Voter Fraud! [Re: Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Todd

"Family values" are indeed conservative values...they're also progressive values, and American values. Every time the GOP touts that they *are* the family values party some dude gets caught sending gay pics to an underage staffer, cheating on his wife (repeatedly), or getting yet another divorce. They should really stop saying that they are for "family values" and just say they are "anti-abortion", since that's the only "family value" that they have all for themselves.

The rest are everyone's, and it's a fair bet that everyone else is at least as good at doing them as the GOP, and in many cases better...far better.


Well said.

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#818665 - 01/29/13 06:30 PM Re: Voter Fraud! [Re: Todd]
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Hank,

How does the "Free Schidt" arguement (which posits that the reason Dems win is that the 'takers' keep voting for them) square with the well documented fact that the largest net-negative counties and states are heavily skewed towards the GOP?

I think, like a lot of the arguments I hear from the GOP these days, what they say SOUNDS believable, but alas is false.

The real GOP will come back some day, I for one will be glad when it does.
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#818674 - 01/29/13 06:47 PM Re: Voter Fraud! [Re: ]
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Hank, here's the GOP's choice they have to make:

Stop shoveling schit, or continue trying to convince people that the schit is actually chocolate pudding.

It's clear that the American people don't buy that it's chocolate pudding...it's also clear that the GOP and it's followers (especially those like the ones who post here) still think that the second option is viable.

I suspect that the GOP will continue to fare worse and worse, then they will have to make a fundamental change, and the true believers like you and the rest here will embrace the 180 degree turn in many policies as being what you loved about the GOP all along.

Kinda sad, really.

Fish on...

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