that goes for ANY gun, working or not, parts, ect...

I am NOT wrong!!! You are Todd, as usual...but don't let me slow ya' down.

Please continue...I am interested in how a person can go to a gunshow and walk out (legally) having purchased a firearm without having "ever" gone thru a NICS check.

Type slow for me.

who knows where they got them... and i dont know the rules of that state...

here in Washington, you MUST be a member of the Washington Arms Collectors group in order to purchase ANY firearm at ANY gunshows in this state, to join the WAC, you can either have a CPL (Concealed Pistol Lisence, that requires a background check, duh) or, pay like 12 bucks to have them run a background check on you... if you fail, you dont get in, and you wont be buying guns at any shows in this state...

it has nothing to do with gunshows here, elsewhere, i dont know how they operate...

..and the recent shootings all would have been prevented if it wasn't for the danged gunshow loophole. One more law and they'd show us that they can stop crazy people from doing despicable, crazy sh.it.

More people have died in one year from the ATF giving away guns than from all the guns sold in all the gunshows ever in this country.

If it really was about the children we'd be closing the "ATF loophole".

"The search warrant was justified not on the basis there was proof that the Davidians had purchased anything illegal, but on the basis that they could be modifying legal arms to illegal arms"

I have AR15 lowers. I have M16 bolt carriers. Yes, they could be modified into illegal arms, but they are not.

Using this logic, a block of steel "could be" modified into a Thompson sub machine gun.

The sheriff told the ATF to go talk to them. Instead they chose another approach.

You are so wrong RH......

Washington Arms Collectors is simply ONE promoter out of many.

Not all gun shows require membership and certainly "Non WAC" shows do not recognize and/or require WAC membership.

Dealers, at all shows, are required to run the NICS check.

You should really stop commenting on things you know little to nothing about.

Your above posts proves this point.

BTW.......Todd is correct on CERTAIN aspects of his above posts.....Sorry

Come on RH, don't be giving away the militias secrets....at least make sure Todd knows the secret handshake and has his hood and robe clean and pressed first.

Todd'll be back in a few minutes....right now he's set off the smoke alarm in his Moms basement. His computer 'research' on what he's already claimed to know is currently in warp speed.

You may not be a fan, but you might not have the guns and laws if it wasn't for them. They're not perfect, but I'm sure DAMN glad they're around.

I've never been to a gunshow in WA where a non-member can purchase a firearm.

i didnt know there was more, i thought the Monroe and the Puyallup ones were the only ones in this state, and they are both WAC shows... although, its a high probability on the east side of the mountians, there are gun shows, that have similar requirements... if not, they need to be addressed immeadiately...

what other shows are there?

WAC, in fact, is one of the few shows that require membership.

Trust me on this one buddy......

All require you to pay an entrance fee however.

Todd, cut your wrists, It will help lower your blood pressure.

I trust you as you 'do' them, I don't but I have never been to one in this state that didn't require a BR check to purchase.

Is there a bigger group in this state than WAC?

Plenty......

The transactions with private parties, at these shows, are simply face to face private party sales.

All gun show promoters, in this and other states, would be smart to follow WAC's policy on this issue.

WAC adopted this policy 25+ years ago.

They were and are, even with all of the current issues, ahead of the curve on this one.

As I stated earlier, Licensed Dealers are required to run NICS checks, where applicable.

Todd, you should run for president man.

You see the obvious no one else can see.

You are always right, never wrong.

You can cut right through all the bullchit and tell us all the real truth.

You are always there to educate the ignorant masses, especially about how wrong they are, and how right you are. Right beyond doubt even.

Should be a lock Bro. Save us all in your infinite wisdom.

TODD FOR PREZ 2016!!!!!

WAC is the largest promoter in the State of Washington, however there are numerous other smaller promoters that are not affiliated with WAC.

Here you go.

There are others that run shows in Washington but are based out of Oregon and Idaho that do not appear on this link.

http://www.americangunshows1.com/gunshows/wa-gunshows.htm

well then the state can pass a law and make the WAC state affiliated and that their rules are whats going to happen...

i dont know if thats a good thing, or a bad thing..

What's your gut feeling about the gunshow "loophole"?

PS...I have a 1919 beltfed in .308....need another one?lol

No......WAC is a private promoter and club with a defined Federal Tax status.

RH, I know you mean well however you are way off base with most of your comments / ideas on this subject.

As far as the "Gun Show Loophole" goes, it is simply a made-up term for the politicians to use to sensationalize an issue.

Non dealer sales at a gun show are simply private party face to face sales that could happen nearly anywhere in this state.

The only difference is that the gun show offers a common meeting place.

IN MY OPINION...........ALL promoters should require membership to be able to purchase at the show and that membership should require a background check prior to being issued.

Class 3 or semi?