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#82556 - 10/08/99 10:56 PM native nets
Duck In The Fog Offline
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Registered: 04/02/99
Posts: 453
Loc: Yakima Wa. U.S.A.
It doesn't matter who said what, the natives will still get 50% of harvestable fish. If 696 passes (which I endorse) it whould not give more fish to the natives. 50% is 50%. Think about it.

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#82557 - 10/09/99 08:47 AM Re: native nets
wille17 Offline
Alevin

Registered: 07/03/99
Posts: 12
Loc: north bend,washington. u.s.a
question:if the kennawick man is non native would tne indians still have there fishing rights?. why do think they want him back in the ground so badly!.

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#82558 - 10/09/99 11:10 AM Re: native nets
Duck In The Fog Offline
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Registered: 04/02/99
Posts: 453
Loc: Yakima Wa. U.S.A.
Wille17, I could be wrong, not knowing all the data but, Yes,I think it wouldn't change a thing. I think they think he might be a ancestor. If he's not ,still wouldn't change anything.

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#82559 - 10/09/99 09:30 PM Re: native nets
Chuck Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 03/12/99
Posts: 150
Hey duck what does 50% of harvestable numbers mean? Seems like it would mean "plenty of fish to come back and replenish the run" seems like if we knew those numbers we wouldnt be in this mess in the first place. Problem is we cant figure it out man it's quantum physics my man you cant do it. If there is a slide or a flood your "harvestable numbers" are down the crapper.Thats why 696 has to be sayin first the white guys and next the indians. Chuck
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#82560 - 10/10/99 05:15 AM Re: native nets
IntenseGK Offline
Fry

Registered: 04/05/99
Posts: 32
Loc: Olympia, WA
So then the voters lead the way in salmon restoration by taking action in what we can control. Right now, this isn't a whites vs. Natives issue. A start is a start.

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#82561 - 10/10/99 09:01 AM Re: native nets
wille17 Offline
Alevin

Registered: 07/03/99
Posts: 12
Loc: north bend,washington. u.s.a
you know if the bill does pass. then we owe it to the salmon, to start some kind of action to curtail the time natives can place there nets in the rivers. I realize that they helped us out in seveal areas, from the late 1700s. but how long do we have to live with it.we all benifit from living here in the united states, and most of us pay taxes. so why hasn't fish rights changed for them as well?. I,m sure bolt thought fish would survive forever fom his point of view back then . but serious impacts have taken place over the last several years, which would call for a change , from past views.

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#82562 - 10/10/99 01:44 PM Re: native nets
Bruce(Coho@TheRefuge) Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 232
Loc: Bothell, WA, USA
I think they are subject to the endangered species act. And the feds can shut the natives down if they have the fortitude. In some rivers they should be forced into selective harvest or no harvest, their choice. On the other side of the coin we have to turn in poachers and snaggers. Make the guy whos keeps a snagged fish feel like dirt. I was on the Samish and this jerk snagged a 40#. We were vocal and loud but he kept it(It will smoke, looked like a boot.). He must have needed it to feed his family. Ha! He had a Loomis rod, Calcutta reel, $200 waders, etc. I heard that Soos creek was worse. I am going to start carrying a disposable camera in my pocket.

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