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#87275 - 03/03/00 12:19 AM Quillayute System Wild Steelhead to be Used for Halibut Bait
Bob Offline

Dazed and Confused

Registered: 03/05/99
Posts: 6367
Loc: Forks, WA & Soldotna, AK
Yep ... you read it right!

Squid costs about a $1.70 a pound right now ... steelhead from the broker at a $1.00.

So guess what at least one Quillayute tribal fisherman is going to use for bait for the upcoming halibut opener, yep, Qullayute system wild steelhead. In fact 1000 pounds of this "new" (was used last year too I guess) halibut bait was just purchased ... with orders in for 2000 pounds more.

SICK, SICK, SICK ... when is it ever going to stop???
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#87276 - 03/03/00 01:08 AM Re: Quillayute System Wild Steelhead to be Used for Halibut Bait
Bruce(Coho@TheRefuge) Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 232
Loc: Bothell, WA, USA
Makes me sick! Thats all I can say.

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#87277 - 03/03/00 01:13 AM Re: Quillayute System Wild Steelhead to be Used for Halibut Bait
Neanderthal Offline
Smolt

Registered: 02/27/00
Posts: 77
Loc: Mt Vernon
I'm crying! What a waste! I wonder if they would let the steelhead go if we all pitched in and bought them 1000 or 2000 lbs of frozen alaskan chum? Frozen chums could probably be bought for 50 cents a pound and I don't think the halibut would know the difference. Oh well, the Quillayutes would probably consider that selling their treaty rights. Just wishfull thinking.

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#87278 - 03/03/00 01:49 AM Re: Quillayute System Wild Steelhead to be Used for Halibut Bait
sealice Offline
Parr

Registered: 12/29/99
Posts: 50
Loc: Forks,WA
Well keep on weepin' a friend of mine yesterday said he saw the utes weigh in a 28# and a 30# fresh out of the nets at the mouth. We should put more effort and money into stopping this than taking out the elwha dams at a cost of 29 million of public $$$$$$
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#87279 - 03/03/00 02:15 AM Re: Quillayute System Wild Steelhead to be Used for Halibut Bait
Neanderthal Offline
Smolt

Registered: 02/27/00
Posts: 77
Loc: Mt Vernon
Of all the millions if not billions of tax dollars wasted in the federal government, your going to gripe about 29mill to remove illegal dams to restore a run of the largest chinook in the region, not to mention the steelhead. It's estimated the Elwha can support a run of 350,000 fish. I don't get it.

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#87280 - 03/03/00 04:20 AM Re: Quillayute System Wild Steelhead to be Used for Halibut Bait
steelhead addict Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 01/14/00
Posts: 223
Loc: ridgefield WA 98642
anyone know who this halibut caught with steelhead is being sold to? Can you say boycott?

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#87281 - 03/03/00 11:29 AM Re: Quillayute System Wild Steelhead to be Used for Halibut Bait
Stinkfoot Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 09/30/99
Posts: 106
Loc: White Salmon, WA
Steelhead Addict, that's a great idea. With all of the sources on this page we should be able to come up with the buyer. We could combine the boycott with a letter writing campaign. Being pro-active like this is probably the best way for us John Q. Citizens to do something about wild fish.

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#87282 - 03/03/00 12:23 PM Re: Quillayute System Wild Steelhead to be Used for Halibut Bait
Land Tuna Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 02/22/00
Posts: 142
Loc: Kirkland Wa USA
Steelhead Addict &Stinkfoot.
Yes there are ways to boycot but it will take a lot of work, lots of education and a slick well funded campain. Been working on some ideas and talking with super market managers. On the most part they would love to go along with enviro friendly fish and they could advertise it that way. The big problem is the middle man or the fish buyers.
They are the sportsmans, the Indians and the commercial fisherman problem. The middle man is the only major source of selling fish and because of this they give a lousy price for it and then turn around and make a few hundred % profit on it selling to the supermarkets and restraunts. We need a way to by-pass the Middle man so the indians can get top dollar for fish that are only caught in a selective way,(hatchery fish). "NO GILLNETS" If supermarkets would buy only fish caught in such a maner and direct from some type of co-op of fishermen at the same price the supermarkets buy fish from the middle men it might help save wild Steelhead. The supermarkets sell fish advertised as enviro friendly, the Indians will fish selective because they are getting $2.50/lb instead of $0.50/lb. Remember No Wild fish and no gillnetting allowed. There is a lot of work here to work out loads of snags but it has worked in other states with local Commercial fisherman. ANYONE ANY IDEAS?

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#87283 - 03/03/00 03:46 PM Re: Quillayute System Wild Steelhead to be Used for Halibut Bait
dcrzfitter Offline
Spawner

Registered: 04/10/99
Posts: 889
Loc: Tenino, wa U.S.A.
Land Tuna,

I like yer idea. I think yer idea is in the right direction. It would be like going to the supermarket and buying "Organically grown produce". it sounds like allot of work but I think it would work in time. It would need a BIG advertisement to get it going.

dcrzfitter

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#87284 - 03/03/00 06:56 PM Re: Quillayute System Wild Steelhead to be Used for Halibut Bait
Chuck Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 03/12/99
Posts: 150
Another option is to boycott casinos. Get some of the gambling Idians goin against some of the fishin indians. Divide and conquer, i think you call it. A method that has been used on sporties in the past-remember the CnR debate? C
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#87285 - 03/03/00 08:07 PM Re: Quillayute System Wild Steelhead to be Used for Halibut Bait
Big Jim Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 02/07/00
Posts: 419
Loc: Tacoma, Wa. USA
If you have ever been to the Hood Canal, then you know waste is wide spread. I think the News channels should come out and film a story about the endangered fish runs, then show all the waste.

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#87286 - 03/03/00 08:39 PM Re: Quillayute System Wild Steelhead to be Used for Halibut Bait
Mac Offline
Parr

Registered: 03/21/99
Posts: 37
Loc: Olalla Wa.
I always wanted to send the Tacoma News Tribune a editorial, Looks like I found myself a worthy subject. Lets see if they print it.

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#87287 - 03/04/00 12:23 AM Re: Quillayute System Wild Steelhead to be Used for Halibut Bait
Big Jim Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 02/07/00
Posts: 419
Loc: Tacoma, Wa. USA
Hey Mac, I tried three times and they would not print mine. Good luck, but they are a very left swinging newspaper. I had mine done in F&H.

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#87288 - 03/04/00 12:38 AM Re: Quillayute System Wild Steelhead to be Used for Halibut Bait
Steelheadman Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/15/99
Posts: 4166
Loc: Poulsbo, WA,USA
With whom do they sell their eggs? What price do the eggs get? Who's really profitting from this slaughter?
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#87289 - 03/04/00 01:40 AM Re: Quillayute System Wild Steelhead to be Used for Halibut Bait
Stadle Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 12/04/99
Posts: 180
Loc: Seattle Area
I usually keep quiet on this topic but a person always has their limit. I had no idea until I started reading this board that people were allowed to gillnet native fish. What can be done? petitions, contact of state reps?

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#87290 - 03/04/00 03:35 AM Re: Quillayute System Wild Steelhead to be Used for Halibut Bait
steelhead addict Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 01/14/00
Posts: 223
Loc: ridgefield WA 98642
unfortunatly treaty rights will be hard to change. People can however educate themselves as well as family and friends what is going on. ( i.e. stay away from any fish , halibut etc. caught by native americans until their practices and management change). Until recently ( by reading the board) I didn't realize that wild steelhead are being sold at the Pike street market. This is no small market either. people come from many areas to buy fish here. I think places like this are also a great place to boycott.
It is very irritating that the majority of the crowd that would purchase indian caught, wild steelhead or salmon for that matter, have no clue about fish and their current populations. Most people think that all of the fish at fred meyer or winco is from some pristine river in Alaska. They dont even know what farm raised means. However irritating this may be, we have to start somewhere. Grass roots activism. tell a friend pass it on! this stuff works.

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#87291 - 03/04/00 04:05 PM Re: Quillayute System Wild Steelhead to be Used for Halibut Bait
schitzo with a berkley Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 02/19/00
Posts: 129
Loc: edgewood, wa........
well..in regards to stealhead bein used for bait and wild at that..*shakes head* anyways chum is much better cuz it has more oils in it..why dont the indians save all those chums they waste there in hoodport for these halibut? if anyone would comes up with a fli..id be willin to go to pikes place market and hand them out..ya know, informing them of what the wild stealhead opposed to the hatchery or farm fish is all about..welps..anyone got anything to add to this idea? and was wondering if anyone fishes out in the sound, and needs a bud to go along sumtime..cuz i got a bunch of saltwater tackle i never used and is willing to trade, and pay some gas and stuff..welps..email me if your game..i jus want to fish the sound for a nice fresh king..*blowin this popsickle stand*

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#87292 - 03/04/00 04:08 PM Re: Quillayute System Wild Steelhead to be Used for Halibut Bait
schitzo with a berkley Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 02/19/00
Posts: 129
Loc: edgewood, wa........
oooops..that fli was supposed to be flier..to inform the public of how we need the wild fish..and to buy farm raised..and all that..email addy is narnia75@aol.com

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#87293 - 03/05/00 01:48 AM Re: Quillayute System Wild Steelhead to be Used for Halibut Bait
rogue runner Offline
Parr

Registered: 01/14/00
Posts: 63
Loc: Port Angeles, WA 98362
We should all write to our local papers and news stations and encourage them to cover this story. Tell them to cover it as a factual story, as the facts will speak for themselves. If anyone has the e-mail for 60 minutes this would be a great story for them to cover. It is time that the waste is brought before the public so that all can see.

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#87294 - 03/05/00 12:26 PM Re: Quillayute System Wild Steelhead to be Used for Halibut Bait
CedarR Offline
Repeat Spawner

Registered: 08/04/99
Posts: 1432
Loc: Olympia, WA
Boycott 'em all. Just say "No" to Mrs. Booth, skip the Skipper, and pass on the casino's seafood buffet. Don't stop at the seafood market on the way home from your next "skunk" fishing trip. Tell your wife the truth...the fish were too stupid to bite.

[This message has been edited by CedarR (edited 03-05-2000).]

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