Do any of you fish Vision Hooks? There about 1/2 the price of gammy's,stronger than gammy's and definetly as sharp right out of the box. they sell more hooks to guides in Wa. state then any other manufacture. Check em out. Peace

I've heard a lot of great things about Vision hooks, talked to the guys at the ISE in Seattle and one big guy even gave my some samples which I really liked, but I cannot find them in any tackle shops! Where can I find these hooks?

Ill agree on the price thing...But No way are they sharper and Ive never lost a fish cause the Gammys broke or bent! If your giving the guides the hooks coarse there gonna fish em. Lets tell em they can have either one free! Then lets see which hook they choose! Remember your a salsmen trying to sell your product, A car salesman will tell ya the same line...If thats what it takes to make a sale. MONEY DOSENT MATTER!!! if your consistantly hooking fish. especially 25 cents...

Salesman sure, but I have heard that they are great hooks @ half the price. I actually used some last weekend and I thought there were pretty damn good! Of course I spent hours and hours sharpening my Lazer Sharps for years!!

Gammys are great hooks.If they have been working for you stick with them! Unless the price is an issue.

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Some of the Quinault guides have been using them and are very pleased!

anyone who thinks that the vision hook isnt as sharp as a gammy is wrong. i know for a fact that guides do not get given the vision product, they pay for them, also check out their swivels, by far better than the rosco. they are extremely fast and once again that price is definately within reason. but my guess would be the price will stay down as an introductory deal and will be more expensive as time goes on and popularity grows. dont think that because you pay less for a product that it isn't good. loomis rods for example arent necessarily the best just because of their high dollar marketing and retail prices.

I heard that vision hooks are gammy 2nd's! So if that is true then they are the same thing. Heard that they are also coming out with a line of fly hooks, can't wait.

I live in washougal,wa. and shop at G I Joes
and Fisherman marine supply and have never seen a vision hook.let alone a swivel by that name.But I've tried other hooks and always come back to gammies.they are the best...

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Bob Dawson

I do have to agree that they are a good hook at half the price. whether they are better than Gamakatsu or not is debatable. I fish spinners more than anything else and will pay any amount for good swivels. Vision's are the best, no question. Just one question Joe (AKA Superfly), when you make a post like that why don't you come right out and say that you are the "Product Manager" for Vision Hooks and Tackle?

I fished with them yesterday and they suck.Have you ever straightened out a 2/0 Gammy with 10# leader or have the tip break off when snagged on a log.Well it happened to me with Vision hooks yesterday.Also we hooked 9 fish and only landed 4.I know that happens,but the other things made me think these hooks were a contributing factor in losing so many fish.--- TIGHT LINES---

I haven't used the hooks, but I DID notice them in the CABELA'S catalogue!!!

I stick with Gammies on the rivers...on the salt, I usually use Gammies too for double hook and single hook setups. Otherwise I use commercial trebles!!!

L

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"Great spirits have always encountered opposition from mediocre minds!" Albert Einstein

We've used Gammi's and Vision both on our TV show. We switched from Gammi's to Vision after the Gammi's on our John's Jigs kept breaking and we've never broken a Vision hook. That isn't exactly a scientific experiment, just our experience. And no, we didn't switch to Vision because they are a sponsor of our TV show....we were using Vision hooks BEFORE we approached them for a sponsorship.

Kevin
Fisherman's Heaven http://www.fishermansheaven.com

I'll stick with gammies till they fail me.

That is the great thing about this country, your right to choose what you want to use or buy. A free Market society encourages competition,competition makes for better products, and better products are good for the consumers. I used Gammy's until I went to work for Vision, Vision Hooks gave me the opportunity to get out of the woods.(former Logger) Gammy's at this time have probably about 90% of the sportfishing market here in the northwest. Nobody is going to hurt them in anyway. All vision is doing is filling a void in the market selling a great hook for a good price and giving the consumer a break. We will continue to add products to our line such as fly hooks, bass hooks, jig hooks and of course siwash for the lure restrictions. We are also doing some oem business, which gammy dosent do much of because of there price.
As for Gammy seconds, there not, they come from a different place.
As for the guy who says they suck , he obviosly was'nt fishing visions because our tinsile strength is higher than gammys.
for every one else just try em', if you don't like em thats fine but I think you will be pleasently suprised. Peace Superfly

Superfly, How does the wire diameter compare to Gammies, as a guide I've tried many hooks but I always come back to Gammies, besides the obvious of there sharpness and strength they are also made of smaller gauge wire meaning the eye is smaller which causes less damage to my baits, just curious, thanks.

i like the vision hooks but the only thing i don't like about them is that the smaller hooks like the # 2's and 4's the barb and the shank are to close together so i use all the higher sizes up to 2/0's and there great so there good besides the smaller hooks they make

ok superfly, now that you bring up your sales pitch, now where in say, tacoma/spanaway will we find your vision hooks and or swivels.
i shop a lot at k-marche' and gi joe's, but have never seen them. forgot about fredy's.
so where do you sell from?

thanks elmtree.

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Scott, The Vision Wire diameter is a touch thicker, it dosen't seem to make any difference, All I can say is go look at them and see what you think. As for Elmtree in your area auburn sports and marine has them. Doug at great northwest fishing and archery on river road in puyallup has them, as well as fishermans den in yelm. I have an appointment with the people at sportco later in the week so look for them there soon. Other than that ask for them by name at your local dealer and that will help get them into mor places. Thanks Superfly

They also stock a huge selection at Barrier Dam Campground store on the Cowlitz.