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#874891 - 12/12/13 04:52 PM Bertha's not drilling
JTD Offline
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Well DUH!


It's Lex Luthor's liar.
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#874892 - 12/12/13 04:56 PM Re: Bertha's not drilling [Re: JTD]
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I think it hit a copy of the ACA....nothing can get through that.
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#874968 - 12/13/13 10:43 AM Re: Bertha's not drilling [Re: ]
JPbarbless Offline
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Registered: 03/03/07
Posts: 171
Loc: Seattle
Unanticipated soil conditions will be claimed . Seattle tunnel partners will then put in a claim to the state for poor soils test delaying the schedule. Just the start of the cost overruns. There will be no hurry to get bertha off the couch. Time to order the preparation H by the trainload as the taxpayer is once again getting it in the a.....

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#874982 - 12/13/13 11:37 AM Re: Bertha's not drilling [Re: ]
Us and Them Offline
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Registered: 10/20/10
Posts: 1263
Loc: Seattle
Bertha is drilling the taxpayer. When it's all said and done they will name it after the politician who most effectively lobbied for the project. That will probably be Gregoire . What a fitting tribute a massive gaping hole named after her.
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#876435 - 12/21/13 12:38 PM Re: Bertha's not drilling [Re: Us and Them]
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Posts: 2562
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Let's bore a tunnel under Seattle that will eventually (if completed) have less capacity than the previous highway..... Could be the world's most expensive water slide.

http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2022500506_berthawateryxml.html
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#876440 - 12/21/13 01:30 PM Re: Bertha's not drilling [Re: ]
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Registered: 11/24/03
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Loc: Poulsbo
Me say's it's a train wreck--really!
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#876443 - 12/21/13 02:24 PM Re: Bertha's not drilling [Re: ]
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I don't wonder about the wisdom. There is none.

WDOT's own numbers show the difference between traffic jams on I5 and smooth sailing is only a 10% reduction in vehicles. Changing start times for non critical federal and state employees would cover that. But, there'd be no monuments built in honor of the ruling class.

F'n joke!
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#876450 - 12/21/13 02:51 PM Re: Bertha's not drilling [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
Originally Posted By: wntrrn
I don't wonder about the wisdom. There is none.

WDOT's own numbers show the difference between traffic jams on I5 and smooth sailing is only a 10% reduction in vehicles. Changing start times for non critical federal and state employees would cover that. But, there'd be no monuments built in honor of the ruling class.

F'n joke!




Like voters making long range mass transit decisions, good luck with that one.

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#876453 - 12/21/13 03:09 PM Re: Bertha's not drilling [Re: Illahee]
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Loc: everett
I work in the SODO district and we had significant liquefaction in our basement during the last shaker. An engineering co. did a test bore and went 35 ft before they hit seashells and went another 30 ft and never hit anything solid.
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#876460 - 12/21/13 04:06 PM Re: Bertha's not drilling [Re: Illahee]
wntrrn Offline
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Registered: 01/13/03
Posts: 2562
Loc: Edmonds
Originally Posted By: Illahee
Originally Posted By: Hankster
Originally Posted By: wntrrn
I don't wonder about the wisdom. There is none.

WDOT's own numbers show the difference between traffic jams on I5 and smooth sailing is only a 10% reduction in vehicles. Changing start times for non critical federal and state employees would cover that. But, there'd be no monuments built in honor of the ruling class.

F'n joke!




Like voters making long range mass transit decisions, good luck with that one.


While we could have done better many years ago or even today, our joke of a light rail system is nothing more than a waste of my money. Before we started this boondoggle called Sound Transit, the EIS clearly stated not a single vehicle would be removed from the roads upon completion. Transferring people from a good bus system to light rail with zero parking is a joke. Foresight? Not so much.

Bicycles are for those of us who don't hold political office.
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#876461 - 12/21/13 04:08 PM Re: Bertha's not drilling [Re: ]
wntrrn Offline
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Registered: 01/13/03
Posts: 2562
Loc: Edmonds
Originally Posted By: Hankster
Find out what's holdin' Bertha back and keep diggin'.


They'll keep boring a hole in my pocket. That digging never stops.
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#876508 - 12/21/13 07:05 PM Re: Bertha's not drilling [Re: wntrrn]
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Posts: 2917
Loc: Bellevue
It's an Alien space ship I'm tellin ya. Just like in the movie 5 Million Years to Earth. As soon as they open that thing up, look out!
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#880637 - 01/16/14 11:24 AM Re: Bertha's not drilling [Re: ]
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Registered: 10/28/09
Posts: 3339
I think it's safe to say that DOT's seemingly never-ending incompetence is the single largest contributor to the recent, ongoing trend of enormous state budget shortfalls. I'm only half joking when I say I hope Bertha's next project will be to dig a mass grave for the managers making the decisions on these catastrophically failed projects. I suppose I would settle for a few of those at the top being fired.... Whatever the means, there needs to be some degree of accountability for stuff like this.

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#880655 - 01/16/14 01:07 PM Re: Bertha's not drilling [Re: FleaFlickr02]
wntrrn Offline
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Registered: 01/13/03
Posts: 2562
Loc: Edmonds
And our lawmakers are putting together a 12 billion dollar transportation package with gas tax increases of 10-12 cents/gallon. Because they really need to address our transportation issues.....

Ineptitude is a word that comes to mind.
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#880664 - 01/16/14 02:01 PM Re: Bertha's not drilling [Re: wntrrn]
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Meanwhile, education falls further and further off the map.... Well, at least our kids and grandkids will have nice streets to live on.

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#880665 - 01/16/14 02:01 PM Re: Bertha's not drilling [Re: wntrrn]
docspud Offline
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Registered: 11/01/06
Posts: 1557
Loc: Silverdale Wa
Originally Posted By: wntrrn

Ineptitude is a word that comes to mind.





I can think of a few other words as well.
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#883229 - 02/01/14 11:25 AM Re: Bertha's not drilling [Re: docspud]
wntrrn Offline
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Registered: 01/13/03
Posts: 2562
Loc: Edmonds
We got 4 more feet out of her. I5 wasn't built with enough capacity thru Seattle and then we pick the 99 alternative that has less carrying capacity than before... Fuggin' idiots! 4'!

http://mynorthwest.com/11/2446033/New-problem-prevents-Bertha-from-tunneling-again
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#883305 - 02/01/14 05:12 PM Re: Bertha's not drilling [Re: ]
wntrrn Offline
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Registered: 01/13/03
Posts: 2562
Loc: Edmonds
A long time and a lot. This was about making the owners of prime waterfront real estate a couple tons of money. I'd like to see how the politicians benefit from the deals they made.
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#883329 - 02/01/14 06:20 PM Re: Bertha's not drilling [Re: wntrrn]
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 13467
$1.4 billion for 9,000 feet Hank. 50% has already been paid to the prime contractor.

Man, I need to get hold of that contractor's business plan. What little contracting work I've done I was never able to collect 50% doing only 11% of the work.

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#883353 - 02/01/14 08:34 PM Re: Bertha's not drilling [Re: ]
Salmo g. Offline
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Posts: 13467
That's Seattle economics at work, right there. I think they got the idea from CA.

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