Todd.
while you may say you don't want religion in politics, I bet you would never vote for a fundamentalist of any religion over an atheist. You laugh at creationists, because you have a belief of what that means in terms of their critical thinking. It is laughable for me to hear people say religion has no part in Politics when it is such a central force in who people are.

The reason, at least for me, why fundamentalists of at least some religions-and this probably covers Christians and Muslims both, is that the proposals which they make for governing are not ones I support. So, am I not supporting them because of their religion or how they propose to govern? And, because I won't vote for a fundamentalist is that because I dislike their religion or their politics?

Please read the definition of Religion.

+1 quadrillion. Thank you.

For me, o.k. I can take a tin foil hat joke. But I'm trying to do my own homework on all candidates to make my own informed decision. This is how smart adults operate, specifically us Engineers. That decision can go either way because its about the message and facts (ie data), not the party. I don't want to waste my vote (even though I know it doesn't really matter - E.C. and all). I wish the MSM would help us in this regard, but they are in pockets just like the politicians they cover. Its so sad that I have to go the BBC for semi-unbiased coverage amiright? The MSM has forced some of us to do our own homework. Sad.

Edit: this is a really good thread. We all don't have to agree and that's OK. We need this discourse as a country, as it makes us who we are. Freedom of thought et al. Regardless of our political affiliations and ID, I'm pretty sure we can all agree that everything is NOT going swimingly at the moment. Lets stop pointing fingers and fix it eh?

And yes, I would be very, very good at Sunday morning if it weren't for this damned hairline. And maybe my face. Its not for everyone. Think Krauthammer but with pretty eyes.

The real question for this thread should be along the lines of "Should ANY fundamentalist be President?"

Many folks in the US loudly oppose Sharia Law but want their interpretation of Biblical Law and somehow think the justifications are different.

An interesting historical fact is that the three major monotheistic religions grew out of each other. Judaism to Christianity followed by Islam; all having the same "founders". Of course, each of the three "majors" has a bewildering set of different groups that all use the same base texts. And yet, each group sees that they have the one true interpretation.

or a bald atheist president.

I think I should be president.

I was but now just own a bunch of hotels across the country.

That's a bulls.it analogy. Intellectually dishonest.

It wasn't babtists or Jehovas witnesses or Mormons that declared jihad on American lives

What is a moslem?

Well, it was Christians that tried to exterminate Muslims, Mormons massacred non-Mormon folk. Christians did a number on all sorts of savages in the New World. Hate seems to know no religious boundaries.

Swing and a miss

Moslem is the original and accurate spelling. Muslim is a newer, western variation. My Muslim friends prefer Moslem and that's why I say Muslim. It gets under their skin a bit, but what are friends for? Some dudes take it way too seriously (for real). I don't recommend teasing in this way while in the M.E. and standing next to dudes with large knives.

Nice shoes! Are you gonna go for it? You woke up the whole hotel dad.

I was hoping someone would make that link.....

I really don't care which sky fairy you belive in, nor do I give twoshits when two sky fairy believers believe in two different sky fairies...they are all the same sky fairy to me.

What I do care about is if you think your sky fairy gives you special dispensation to be an asshole, or if your sky fairy gives you justification to be a racist, a bigot, or to kill other sky fairy believers who happen to believe in a different sky fairy then you.

I also care that if you are in a position of authority outside of your church you should check your sky fairy beliefs at the door and do your fuckin job, which is defend the Constitution of the United States of America.

If you can't do that due to your sky fairy beliefs, then you should never get the job...or, move to a country like Iran where that is a job requirement, not a job impediment.

Fish on...

Todd

What is a Sky Fairy?

Agreed. However........A liberals "sky fairy" is government and do all the exact same things your railing against

The Pope is a real person, dumbfuck.

Spokesman Frank is the spokesman on the DS for idiocy and delusional hypocrisy

this a ignorant term for spirits such as angels. seems there are dimwits who believe they don't exist.