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#95895 - 09/12/00 07:03 PM John Carlson for Governor
QwikSticks Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 04/13/00
Posts: 147
Loc: Brier, WA
I just read Johns Carlson's News release stating his Salmon Recovery plan. I must say I am impressed I hope he can succeed if elected. I have wanted to get rid of Gary Locke for a long time. Looks like John is going to get my vote this election.

The link to the article is: http://johncarlson.org/news/releases/release.asp?id=42

Here is the news Release


Carlson on the Salmon Crisis: Remove Most
Nets Until Fish are Off Endangered List

Contact: Trova Hutchins
Date: Tuesday, September 05, 2000


Gubernatorial Candidate John Carlson today unveiled a 4-point, common sense plan to
restore healthy salmon runs in Washington waters. The plan includes a proposal to
remove all nets – tribal and commercial – from Washington waters as long as the fish
remains on the endangered list. “Netters must be fairly compensated for lost income
and licenses,” said Carlson.

“What other endangered species can be legally trapped in large numbers while traveling to lay its eggs?” said Carlson. “It makes no sense to regulate salmon habitat on land while allowing thousands of yards of gill nets to be stretched across salmon habitat in the water.”

Carlson also voiced his support for the Salmon Recovery Planning Act passed by the
legislature last year, which restores salmon habitat one river, one creek, and one watershed at a time. Carlson believes local communities should help make the critical decisions to bolster fish runs. Governor Locke has no real plan to save the salmon and no ultimate goal. “How could we ever claim success without recognized goals that tell us the salmon are no longer endangered?” asked Carlson.

“Strong leadership in the Governor’s office could clarify and ultimately resolve this
issue,” said Carlson. “I am tired of waiting four years for that leadership from the Governor to compensate for the horrendous management of our fisheries and I think
most people are too.”

1) We need to have a plan for saving the salmon and then set goals on replenishing
salmon runs so we know when we are successful.

2) Harvest: Remove all nets – tribal and commercial – from our state’s waters and
compensate for lost income.

3) Habitat: Encourage local solutions rather than top-down regulations to restoring
habitat by supporting efforts like the Salmon Recovery Planning Act.

4) Keep the Snake River Dams in place.

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#95896 - 09/13/00 09:54 AM Re: John Carlson for Governor
QwikSticks Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 04/13/00
Posts: 147
Loc: Brier, WA
Sorry for Duplicating a current topic. I did a search on this subject and didn't find anything. Guess I should have tried some more search Criteria

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#95897 - 09/13/00 08:36 PM Re: John Carlson for Governor
Ron Bob Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 03/24/99
Posts: 333
Loc: Carnation, wa
I'm wondering wy Mr. Carlson suddenly is for the banning of nets? In the last election he was very out spoken about being against the net ban.

Also he says to ban neting by the Natives as well. This just can't be done. It's a treaty issue not a state issue. The federal government and sate government have no jurisdiction over the Natives.So how can he stop them.

I think Mr. Carlson is blowing a little smoke here. Food for thought. Just my opinion.

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#95898 - 09/13/00 08:55 PM Re: John Carlson for Governor
Chris Offline
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Registered: 03/24/00
Posts: 220
Loc: Poulsbo, Wa
What are his other views? Education, socail security,ect...

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#95899 - 09/13/00 10:12 PM Re: John Carlson for Governor
Plunker Offline
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Registered: 04/01/00
Posts: 511
Loc: Skagit Valley
Hey QuickSticks,

From where did you paste the press release in the main body of your post?

It reads differently then the one in the link. They seem identical with the exception of the wording in the second of his four points.

Point two from your article reads:

2) Harvest: Remove all nets – tribal and commercial – from our state’s waters and
compensate for lost income.

Point two from the article in the link reads:

2) Harvest: Remove all nets – tribal and commercial – from our state’s rivers (all freshwater) and compensate for lost income.

I have been following this since last Wednesday and today is the first time that I noticed point two dealing with "fresh water nets only". I had been of the assumption that the language referred to "all of our states waters" as in the body of your article.

Does anyone know what's happening here?

It's the difference between apples and oranges ie tribal vs. all nets.

Plunker
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#95900 - 09/13/00 10:51 PM Re: John Carlson for Governor
stlhead Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 6732
The governor of the state of washington cannot remove tribal nets from anywhere unless, of course, he means the tribes will voluntarily remove them in exchange for money which the tribes have steadfastly refused to ever do. Carlson doesn't know what he is talking about.
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#95901 - 09/14/00 10:13 AM Re: John Carlson for Governor
QwikSticks Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 04/13/00
Posts: 147
Loc: Brier, WA
Plunker, Hmm I copied that directly from the link Source. I did not modify it in any way (promise). The original must have been modified.

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#95902 - 09/14/00 12:04 PM Re: John Carlson for Governor
Plunker Offline
Spawner

Registered: 04/01/00
Posts: 511
Loc: Skagit Valley
QuickSticks, --- Thanks for the honest reply. I had guessed the same since some earlier links to the same press release are no longer working. It seems that Carlson has changed his position without announcement and swept the past under the rug.

Thanks for posting the original here. I saved a link but not a copy thinking it would remain online.

I will email the Carlson headquarters asking for an explanation. - Plunker
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#95903 - 09/14/00 06:07 PM Re: John Carlson for Governor
Stinkfoot Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 09/30/99
Posts: 106
Loc: White Salmon, WA
Good work, Plunker. Hopefully other members of this board will more carefully read these campaign promises.

In case anyone hasn't figured out what Plunker dug up, here it is: Carlson wants to ban freshwater netting; since commercial netting is done mostly if not all in the salt, and the governor can't do a thing about indian netting, Carlson appears to be promising nothing.

That's not rain running down our backs.

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