and nothing but crickets from the big tough 2nd Amendment folks on the DS. Color me surprised!

Walked into a conference room yesterday and they were debating I1639. Got on FB yesterday evening and they were complaining about I1639 comparing vehicular accidents to gun deaths.

A very sad night in LA. Sounds like the suspect had mental issues. Ex Marine and had been evaluated for mental health issues. I heard the magazine that was used was illegal in California.

I don't think the Constitution writers imagined semi automatic and automatic weapons.

What laws could have prevented this?

He was using an illegal magazine, so that law did not help.

So you need a law that says all veterans who served in combat loose their second amendment rights because they could pose a risk to society. This would have to be the case because all veterans who served in combat have PTSD or have experienced PTSD.

In fact your just going to have to outlaw everybody who has had a traumatic experience from possessing guns because all of them have experienced PTSD.

Every cop, every fire fighter, every ambulance worker and every ER doctor and nurse, everybody who has ever been in a traumatic event or witnessed one will have to have their 2nd amendment rights revoked because any of them could pose a risk to society.

You need to evaluate everybody on an annual basis who owns firearms to make sure they are fit to possess them.

The truth is you could do all of these things and it would have no impact on mass shootings, homicide or suicide with guns.

If someone is going to do something like that sometimes they show warning signs and sometimes they don't. Its like when someone wants to actually kill themselves they don't tell anybody they just do it. If someone wants a gun legal or not they can get one and use it, no law would prevent these shootings.

The only thing what would work is if they removed the 2nd amendment and destroyed all guns in America, then people would use knives or shovels instead to do mass killings.

They also didn't imagine the internet..

So you can send your response with a fvckin carrier pigeon....

I'm your Huckleberry. Let's rap. What's on your mind eddie?

Nick, what I'm looking for is to have the NRA et al. come to the table with something other than "We need more guns" or "We need to enforce the laws already on the books". It appears the latest shooter is another person who got their gun legally, had no prior criminal record and his first crime was mass murder. We have had at least 23 deaths in the last two weeks that we know of that fits this description, there probably are more that didn't make the National news. As Hank points out, 1639 will do nothing to eliminate this problem. But, it passed in a landslide because there was no alternative. In the absence of anything from the gun activist community, the general population will reach the proper and inescapable conclusion that the gun activists care more about the right to keep and bear arms than they do about people's lives. That is a position that will lead to more and more 1639's. So, what have you got, or do you want to be the victim of the population that quite frankly finds the gun activist communities position wrong?

Edwardo,
The government is completely ignorant towards implementing or enforcing the laws on the books already.

Read here idiots:
https://www.king5.com/article/news/local...e/281-612381518

It goes without saying there are laws against owning the mags the shooter used.
Did it stop him????
Nope.
Why??
Because the employees sucking the government tittt only care about getting a check for doing nothing.

Passing more laws is laughable.
Not to mention laws are for lawyers and pussies.

Someone should have been packing and shot him between the eyes.
Unfortunately he had to do it himself because the criminal was the only one packing.

Harden the soft targets and these pukes will just go jump off a bridge instead.

WDFW and Hankster have illustrated my point. WDFW wants more guns, the only problem with that is that the more guns will be in the hands of law abiding citizens who got their guns legally and are one bad day away from becoming a mass murderer. Hank, people do something because doing nothing means that more people will die and that is not acceptable to the majority of the population.

How will you come to grips with this? If you do nothing, it sends the message that the right to keep and bear arms is more important than people dying from gun violence. You may not want to face this fact, but the majority of people find that to be a ridiculous position. So, they do something, not effective, but something. Eventually they will get to the point where they say "The 2nd Amendment needs to be modified or eliminated". If you can't see this arc, you aren't paying attention.

What I find interesting, (if that's appropriate in cases like these) is, if there are soooo many guns out there, why is no one shooting back? I mean, you rarely hear of anyone returning fire? The assailant is in a crowded venue and is firing for minutes, and the victims are hiding. Is there no one in any of these places with a carry license that can engage the perpetrator? Just doesn't seem plausible with "so many guns on the streets". In a lot of these shootings, as soon as law enforcement engages the shooter, he turns the gun on himself. Perhaps if someone immediately returned fire, it would save lives. Also, by returning fire, gun advocates could enforce the argument that guns are needed for self protection. Just saying...

What do mentally ill people, that plan on committing mass murder, have against country music?

Las Vegas and now this.

Forget guns.

Time to make country music illegal.



A Sheriff deputy was killed in the line of duty as he stepped in to the place to stop the attack. He was armed, gun drawn, and in the ready. And he failed.

Why do you think an armed person, not paying any attention whatsover to a "potential mass shooting situation", having a good time, drinking, playing some pool, dancing, would do any better after someone fires off a high capacity magazine in to the crowd? That armed person is either dead and nevers realized a bullet cracked them in the brain, or was truly smart at got the fvkc out of there ASAP. No one walks in to a bar expecting to come across a mass shooting, nor is anyone in that bar prepared, at that moment, to do anything other than follow a basic survival instinct.

It's a falicy to believe that more armed people in this bar would have changed the ultimate outcome. Every last firearms instructor, tactical or otherwise, will tell you the same thing. If you don't know it's coming, there's really very little you can do about it or have anything in your control.

Only Donald Trump (or Chuck Norris) could have been in that bar and would have shot that dude in the head the second he drew our brought out his Glock. The Don has said so himself, many a time.



Wow. That's about the dumbest thing anyone could have said.

Really?

How about this - for all the liberalness you preach, vote for, and pretend to be, tell me what Washington, which is a huge liberal state, as a massive homeless, mentally ill, and heroin/drug problem?

Why does a state, which has one of the better economies in the nation, absolutely SUCK at taking care of thier own citizens?

Maybe ever consider that all of these mentally ill people running around, that are getting NO HELP WHATSOFVCKING EVER, are the ones also running around committing these acts of crime?

OH wait, they are.

And Washington and the rest of the nation is doing NOTHING for them.

Sure, blame the guns. I'm sure it makes you sleep well at night. Hypocrite.

". . . it sends the message that the right to keep and bear arms is more important than people dying from gun violence."

And there you have it Eddie. For a lot of gun rights advocates, in a nation with an annual average of 30,000 firearm deaths, mass shootings are a statistical outlier, and just a sad and tragic part of the cost of freedom in gun-stoked America.

The best estimate I have read is that universal background checks, organized and managed in a federal database might reduce gun violence by up to 2%. Coordination between mental health care and law enforcement might reduce it by another 5 to 10%, depending on what "coordination" means and results in. The upshot (no pun intended) is that in a nation of 360 million Americans with over 300 million firearms, gun related violence and death will occur. Period. That ain't gonna' change without outright gun seizures nationwide. Feel-good legislation isn't going to feel good for long when it is obvious that it doesn't prevent and significantly reduce gun violence.

Excellent synopsis Paker. No wonder you are the chosen one.

Yeah, if only there were a bunch of drunk college kids with guns in that bar, all I see is positive outcomes from this.

As long as gunowners answer every question with "more guns", then the rest of society will make rules for us. This is just the beginning.

You can choose to be part of the solution, or you can choose to continue being part of the problem...just don't whine about the problem when you are part of causing it.

I didn't vote for this initiative, and I am pretty sure that a lot of it will be found unconstitutional, in any event...but the next one may not be.

Fish on...

Todd

P.S. The perception that gun rights are more important than peoples' lives is out there because for many, it's the truth.

On Facebook, the shooter posted a chilling final message about gun control and how 'prayers and tears' were not enough to stop atrocities such as the one he committed. "Yeah.. I'm insane, but the only thing you people do after these shootings is 'hopes and prayers'.. or 'keep you in my thoughts'... every time... and wonder why these keep happening." If we pass gun control, he wins. Glad to see you are on the same page as the shooter, Eddie. This was an act of political terrorism to further gun control and the victims were presumed by the shooter to be conservatives because they were at a country music concert. Are you really going to take the words of the mad man who shoots people as important? I'm not, just like I'm not going to take mad men like Eddie's words as important either.

This happened in the most gun regulated state, he used a handgun not an "assault rifle." You would literally have to ban guns in their totality to be any stricter. Even then criminals would still choose to keep theirs while everyone else turns them in. Yet again, the obvious problem here is mental health. But, it will be blown off for more gun control marches and other bullsh!t. Why didn't all those tough bans in CA stop this guy from legally buying a handgun in CA AFTER police had been called out to check his mental health? You live in a fantasy world. Even if magically you eliminated all guns on the planet, then a guy with a kitchen knife will kill a room full of unarmed people.

Banning guns, always leads to more violence:
https://www.npr.org/2017/10/05/555580598/fact-check-is-chicago-proof-that-gun-laws-don-t-work
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/383...g-homicide-rate
https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2...cides-on-record
http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-mexico-guns-20180524-story.html

Your fairy-tale story will never happen. Death is part of life. Cigarettes, cheeseburgers and hammers each kill more people than firearms. You’re more likely to die in a work related accident than a victim of random gun violence. You’re welcome to leave the country (since you aren't a real American anyway, Eddie). The laws aren’t changing because of your feelings. Freedom isn’t free, fa99ot. There is risk, there is responsibilities. Innocent people die early all the time and will continue to. Wolves will always exist and sheep will always be preyed upon. If you want to live in a world where the docile masses are kept like sheep in a pen, content to graze on the rations allotted to then by the shepherd, go do that somewhere else. This is America, the land of the FREE AND home of the BRAVE.

The problem isn't "gun violence" it's violence, not the gun. The tool is not violent, it is the person wielding it. Focusing autistically on the tool distracts from the real issues (mental healthcare, criminal gangs, etc.) causing the violence. Getting stabbed to death doesn't make you any less dead.

There is always the simple simpleton's solution to end gun shootings and that is more gun regulation.

First off, nobody is arguing FOR automatic weapons, nice straw-man. But let's imagine what the founders intended.

I own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founders intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the Gov'ner?" as I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, but it misses entirely due to smooth bore and it hits my neighbors dog. I run to the top of the stairs to my black powder cannon loaded with grapeshot. "Tally ho lads!" I cry out as the grape shot shreds two men to pieces. The sound and extra shrapnel set of car alarms all over the neighborhood. Fix bayonet to musket and charge last terrified rapscallion while shouting "Take this scallywag!" He bleeds out waiting for the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. I look up at the American Flag waving from my flagpole and a tear comes to my eye. All just like the founders intended.

Then again, freedom of the press only applies to printing presses that were available to the founding fathers. You can't have these high capacity semi-automatic printing presses just printing out entire books at the push of a button. Also, you can't just have a guy type something out and send it around the world on the internet, he should have to stamp it out page by page on an old school printing press and hand out flyers on the street corner like Thomas Paine. Just like the founders intended. People shouldn't be allowed to advocate 2nd Amendment restrictions online, only if they are using a 1700's printing press, otherwise freedom of the press doesn't apply right? The founders never would have imagined the internet to let dumbfvcks like you annoy people online would they?

Parker, you may believe that my statement is dumb, that's your right. However, twice is the last 2 weeks a law abiding citizen having gained their guns legally have become mass murderers. I'm of the belief that any mass murderer is mentally ill, but somehow these guys slipped through the cracks. Clearly the tool (the gun) is not the total cause, but just as clearly the tool contributes to the cause.

One of the reasons that I am a gun control advocate is that I have lived in a country that had such strict gun control that even the cops didn't carry guns. Was it a non-violent society? Not in any way imaginable. But, it was generally a non-fatal society when violence occurred. And for all those 2nd Amendment folks that talk about hammers, knives, cars, and cheeseburgers, those facts are pretty pesky things. And it makes you look stupid in the eyes of the people. Todd is right, this arc is unmistakable. We will see more of 1639 type laws until finally they get to the point of tackling the 2nd Amendment. If you as gun owners want to influence the decision, you best come to the table. If not, you will be the victims of the majority.

And your solution is? …….

Clearly this is your preference, so move back. Why try and ruin our country when this is our preference?



But those facts are facts, so how do they make me look stupid when all violence (not just gun violence) is not even in the top 10 killings of Americans and these other things are?



The tyranny of the majority will be violently resisted by the majority of gun owners. That is why we have guns to resist government tyranny, from an elected majority. Problem with you is that you are too dumb to hold within your mind a concept of what it would take to disarm America. If the political will actually existed to do it, AND if you could somehow muster the numbers of men it would take to ransack every home in America. Not only do we not have the number of willing men to do it, but even if we did, the absolute devastation of civil war and the bloodbath that would ensue would likely not even result in disarmament even if their side somehow won.

Steele, you have finally said something I can agree with. The genie is way out of the bottle, the confiscation of guns in this country is likely never going to happen. So, what is your solution? Are you willing to add a life sentence without the possibility of parole for any crime committed with a gun? And are you willing to pay for that? What is your answer? I don't believe that the majority of gun owners are going to take to the streets and fight the Government, but you might be right. It will be a very one-sided fight, but like you said with knives, dying with moral correctness still leaves you dead.

My answer is to control crazy people. It should be a crime to sh!t in the street and now you are locked up with no guns. It should be a crime to do heroin and now you are locked up with no guns.

Most of these mass shooters are on anti-psychotic medication and nobody on any mental medication should have a gun. We should shut down the opiate industry, arrest the Sackler family. Psych meds should only be given to people in mental hospitals. We need a lot more mental hospitals, mainstreaming them did not work. 1/4th of women and 1/8th of men are on these psych meds right now. So it's a big problem. If you are so crazy you need psych meds you shouldn't be allowed in public, on the internet and certainly not have a gun.

Also, I think society can be changed so the media, schools, and government aren't lying to people all the time in order to get them outraged. We could have a freer more truthful society were less people are enslaved. However those in control want a population of mentally defective people so they can use them as servants and tools to oppress the rest of society.

There is a lot of truthiness here.

LOL

"It's a falicy to believe that more armed people in this bar would have changed the ultimate outcome."
Bullchit.
The guy would have never walked into the bar if others had guns.
He chose the soft target intentionally.
That's what they do.
An equal fight is not an option for them.
That's why they check out when confronted.

"A Sheriff deputy was killed in the line of duty as he stepped in to the place to stop the attack. He was armed, gun drawn, and in the ready. And he failed."
You consider his actions failure???

A) If there would have been 3 cops with guns they would have probably succeeded. More is better.
B) He caused the moron to shoot himself.
C) He had to come through the front door instead of being a random in the crowd.

"guns will be in the hands of law abiding citizens who got their guns legally and are one bad day away from becoming a mass murderer."
This is no joke and very true for the many who were raised to be weak and lack identity.

X1000
Society is so sympathetic towards the challenged ones now.
Lock em up.

you cant have firearms in bars in California....

you also cant carry firearms in California while masked to conceal your identity....

high capacity magazines (over 10 rounds) are illegal in California, unless grandfathered in, which is impossible for him to have obtained legally...

now, for the stuff that really matters...

he was a Marine, and machine gunner, which likely means a SAW gunner or door gunner for a chopper...

he either rode around cutting people in half with the SAW, or blowing people apart with a .50 cal out of a helicopter....

imagine what that would do to your mental stability...

he also knew people that went to that bar, because they made fun of him constantly for having a lazy eye...

so you have a guy, that was made fun of all his life, joined the Marines, blew peoples body parts off, came home, got no help, and snapped....

maybe people should check how they treat people, instead of trying to screw other people over, because thats where you get into these situations in the first place...

by people screwing other people over.....

There is no realistic solution, and that's fact.

Gun laws and gun control won't work...if you've got a thriving gun industry pumping out guns by the billions. No president is going to voluntarily shutdown that industry.

Removing guns won't work - as there are an estimated 400+ million firearms in America alone. I'd wager most of those are not registered in any fashion and would just "disappear" if they were asked to be surrendered.

Having everyone armed isn't going to solve anything, as all that would do is dramatically increase the amount of accidental shootings in America, as most are just that stupid.

No one is going to open Pandor's Box and allow doctors and law enforcement to deny a mentally ill person a firearm. As Steeleworldwide has correctly pointed out, it's easier for America to ignore the mental health issue than to fix it. Just like it's easier for American to ignore the heroin and drug issue rather than fix it. Same can be said for the homelessness issue.

Stupid-ass state initiatives and worthless laws are not going to solve the issue either.

If anything, I'd argue that we HAVE passed more and more and more gun laws and these mass shootings have only INCREASED. A little logic would say that passing these laws are leading to more shootings. I can make you a graph that proves this theory.

You and I are not homeless, not on heroin, or are crazy, so not our problem, right? Right. We all will sleep well at night.

I do NOT agree that we are all one bad bottle of MALT LIQUOR away from going full mental. A few on here, for sure, but not everone.



Easy, Evo. Stand down, buddy. Put the MALT LIQUOR and the machine gun down. And whatever you do next, FOR GOD'S SAKE, DO NOT LISTEN TO COUNTRY MUSIC!!!!!!!!!

country music sucks....

Bet you all the Malt Liqueur in Seattle the loser came from a divorced family.

He was taught failure at an early age.

You're on a roll today!

Any more tidbits of wisdom to share today?

So far we have:

Arm everybody
No divorces

PS. No dice on that bet. For one, even Evo knows how to use google and secondly, 206'ers don't drink that much MALT LIQUOR - the stuff on the shelves is probably past it's due date...if there's such a thing for MALT LIQUOR.

They choose gun free zones so they don’t run into law abiding gun owners.

Wisdom

Wisdom is knowing what you know as well as what you dont know.
Wisdom is not not simply knowing what to do, but doing it.
Many people will without invitation offer their "words of wisdom", wise people realize when it is not their time or place to do so.
A wise person does not think less of another who chooses not to follow their advice.
Wisdom is not undermining a person for their weaknesses, but appreciating their strengths differ from yours.

Oh so correct.
Only 2.2% of the mass shootings have occurred in places other than gun free zones.

It's so obvious.

Funny how the "mentally ill" are smart enough to figure that premeditated fact out isn't it?????????
Maybe calling them crazy is simply a cop out and it's truly the blued steel tool's fault.

As fun as it is to squabble with WDFW, he and Brood are right.

Easy targets are easy targets.

Why is it that you never see any of these mass shootings in a Cop bar? Or the Police station?

I have a conealed weapons permit. I own legal, registered guns. I have taken more gun classes than most here. Yet, I can not bring a firearm in to my place of employment, as it's illegal. I'm fooked if there's a mass shooting in my building - or at least have no way to protect myself other than to run, hide, and fight for my life with my hands and whatever else I can fashion in to a weapon.

I'd carry now, or at least have a firearm in my work bag, if I could. I do feel like I work in an easy, soft-target environment where young people have been shown to snap have done mass shootings.

Guaranteed a shooter would think twice before entering a building where people have the potential to be armed.

Never wrestle with a pig.

You get chit all over yourself and the pig enjoys it.

or a gun show...

That's more of a 360'er thing.



Been a long time since I've been the Puyallup Gun Show, but is one allowed to carry a loaded firearm in to that event?

I thought you could carry...but firearms has to be checked in and unloaded/locked first.

Maybe that was just bringing in firearms to sell. Never carried at the show, so I honestly do not know.

But yeah, that DOES seem like an ill-advised place to begin your short-lived career as a mass shooter.

Denial is a 206er thing.

Is there such a thing as a cop bar???

Yes. Much like the gay bar the 360's hang out in. In denial, of course.

It's a bar. Where the local cops hang out in.

when i went to the fair last year, i asked the police there if it was legal to carry a pistol on fair grounds, they said no...

i then brought up the fact that they have gun shows, and they said yeah, its dumb, we know...

so basically what i get, is that no, you arent allowed to.....

Interesting.

I think I've seen that in the movies.
AND
I've heard they offer to push your stool in as well.

No pistols allowed of course.

What ever happened to Penny?

Hardaway, the Seahawks running back, or the chick from the Big Bang Theory?

SSSSSSHHHHHHHH!!!!!

Parker is napping.

California has a "gun violence restraining" law that's been on the books since 2016. It's been used like never since becoming law.

"In retrospect, should I have done something?" the roommate said. "I did think to myself, I remember vocalizing this, 'If I know anyone that might become a shooter it would be Ian."

This is another classic case of someone showing all the signs of becoming an active mass murderer but nobody did a damn thing to try and prevent it. But alas why should any of us take any action. It's not my job to keep society safe. That's why we have laws and give money to government andshit. They'll fix it. They can fix everything!

But Eddie feels safe so all's golden!

That made me LOL

Me too.

Good guy with a gun thwarts an active shooter!

Too bad he was black, so the cops shot him when they showed up.

Apparently they left out the "white" part of "good white guy with a gun".

https://wgntv.com/2018/11/11/multiple-wounded-in-robbins-bar-shooting-police-say/

Fish on...

Todd

Wow that's amazingly racist and your verdict is rendered already?????

Sad if all the details prove to be true your honor.

common sense...

you have a person detained, you see lights, you get up, back off, lay your gun down, and put your hands up when the officer tells you to....

period....

Or, you don't just drive up and shoot the first guy you see with a gun, especially when the folks there are telling you that he's the security guard.

Fish on...

Todd

While we're on the subject of mass shootings...well, that and Hank's imbecility, since I'm sure he'll want to share it with us again after this post...

Fox News and self-styled "conservatives" went apeshit last week when they found out that Nicholas Cruz, confessed Parkland mass shooter, registered to vote from jail.

"It's despicable that the Democrat party would do this!"

However, upon actually checking into it...turns out that while registering to vote before trial (which means before having a felony that may suspend your right to vote) is generally ok...he actually registered as a Republican, in Broward County.

I doubt it's quite as despicable now, since he registered as a Republican, as all of the right wing white supremacist terrorists do.

Just a quick FYI.

Fish on...

Todd

ter·ror·ism
/ˈterəˌrizəm/Submit
noun
the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.


ter·ror·ist
/ˈterərəst/Submit
noun
1.
a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.


once and for FVCKING all you dumbass, Cruz, Vegas dude, California bar dude, Columbine dudes, Newton, Sandy Hook, ect, WERE NOT TERRORISM, OR TERRORISTS...

Omar Mateen, was a terrorist....

Antifa, are terrorists...

the people that go to peoples houses and eateries, are terrorists...

so one thing we can agree on, it definitely is a serious problem in america with white men And women being terrorists...

but the thing is, the biggest threat, is the democrats....

if you want to go by that actual fvcking meaning of terrorism... but you go ahead and spin it your way like you so eloquently do....

your reading comprehension skills suck ass...

You state ,Evo,that California bar dude was not,yet people who go into eateries are. Did I read that correctly?

jesus christ...

california bar dude went and killed people that made fun of him, after suffering PTSD that made him snap and want people to pay for their actions....

people that go into eateries, and make Senators and Congressmen and their family leave, because of their political views, is terrorism...

its literally the fvcking definition of it....

but, some people lack reading comprehension skills...

Evo, you get dumber every day...and you started out really low on that scale to begin with.

At least Hank wasn't a total fuckin moron until recently, after his precipitous fall into imbecility the last 18 months.

Trumpism made him stupid, it just made you louder. You were already stupid.

Fish on...

Todd

terror via violence

you mean uses violence to cause terror....

and as i said, it has to be politically motivated for it to be considered terrorism...

and all you have to do is google terrorism, or terroist, and it comes right up, but thats too easy for you to do....

this isnt that hard, but, because you have some inane hatred for me, anything i post, you try to find some flaw, and attack me for it...

always have, always will....

dont like the definition of it? take it up with every single fvcking dictionary company on the planet, make them change it....

if you hate Trump so much, take all the money you have received from bonuses, and taxes, because of his cuts, and give it to charity....

if you dont, you are a fvcking hypocrite, but we already knew that....

Not surprising that an unemployed mooch would be happy to give away other people's money.

Didn't get any bonuses, and my meager tax cut is more than buried in the extra I have paid in fuel prices since he fuckked that up...and, I give more to charity than you have earned this year, that is a fuckin fact.

Thanks for your advice, though, it's about as good as Hank's.

Fish on...

Todd

see?


checkmate...

Evo seems upset.

Zip it cream puff...

Uh, no.

So how big was your Trump tax break, Evo? Was it a significant bump in your paycheck?

How big is your clit?

Solid work...

Who are you to say what the fvck I've earned...

And what the fvck is your deal?

If you have a problem with me, deal with it....

You seem upset. Again.

Are you sure this place is right for you?

You talk too much..

You have no idea.....

Liberals have plenty of ideas... Problem is usually they are all full of sh!t and wrong....

Please continue.

More importantly, why did fish prince/steelhead world wide unregister?

I’ll miss his wordy diatribes.

He did ?

I am sure there is a forum out there where people with jobs and responsibilities are eagerly awaiting political commentary and financial advice from unemployed amateur detectives/lawyers/newsmen posting from their mom's trailer park.

This one isn't it.

Fish on...

Todd

Why do you gotta be so mean?

Yeah, Stam.

You should be nicer. Like me.

Fish on...

Todd

He asked to be nuked.

Just like I'm more than happy to nuke *any* account here. Just say the word in a PM.

As for account lockings, I concluded that RichG and myself can not be trusted when it comes to predicting End of Days...so no point in continuing those threads. They got old and you know what we say in Mod-School: Fukm and take their water.

PS. 5-star rating for this thread!

you are a fake lawyer yourself Todd... i dont know who the hell you are talking about...

as far as me, i only let you know what i WANT you to know....

and even then, it still wont matter, just like when Trump does something good, it doesnt matter, you still talk sh!t....

Upset again?

Goodness me.

why on earth would i be uspet?

im quite fine...

I have no idea what could be upsetting you. But you seem upset.

Should I take a couple guesses?

Good one.



LOL

Fish on...

Todd

sure, lets hear it....

Ok.

The weather?

Fishing hasn't been great?

Your eyes are going bad so now you need glasses?

love the weather...

fishing has been slow, but the river was too high to fish the last 2 weeks... there should be more fish around tho than there is, and i can tell you why there isnt any....

and how the fvck did you know about the last part? you got a spy on my FB?

I have little patience for Evo anymore since all he does is sit here and talk sh!t.

Perhaps a permanent name/IP ban will force him to go find a job and see what else is out there in life beyond his constant perusing of the pages of the dark side.

Every once in a while, you have to pull the weeds to keep the garden lookin' purdy.

Evo, if you can give me one good reason for you to stay I'll consider it.

I know about the last part because I have 2-3 pairs of glasses within an arm's reach whenever possible.

The dark side is more entertaining with Evo around. Fo sho.

Reason #1

Hank could use some Round Up.

SG, all everyone here does is sit here and talk sh!t...

my finances, employment status, sex life, marital status, ect, are all my business, no one elses...

i dont go chasing people around poking into their businesses...

ivr never done anything to you, or anyone on this site... i have helped people tho, bought things, sold things, went fishing with them, and they all seem to think otherwise of what other people think...

if you really want to know what type of person i am in person, ask Scott, ive been in his boat multiple times...

ask Red Neckersom, ive been fishing and talking with the guy for over 2 years...

punishing me for other people coming after me, is like punishing a gun owner for a gun that was stolen from a locked box in their house and used in a crime..... you know, I1639....

Is this what has you down, Evo?

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-po...impression=true

Trump seems upset. I'm thinking maybe that's got you upset, too.

@Dan, Disagree! all punching bags eventually wear out and need to be replaced.

no, i litterally dont care much about Trump...

what i do care about, is people constantly talking sh!t, so yeah i say sh!t back...

its just astounding the level of hatred that people have for that guy, all while complaining about hatred...

its like going into a boxing ring and punching yourself in the face...

makes ZERO sense...

thats what you consider me? a punching bag?



come on man, lighten up....

I know a guy like Evo in real life. Overly confident for having zero to show for it, always talking [Bleeeeep!] about people than denying it, always getting beat up and than playong the victim. He is the only adult I know that gets beat up regularly, yet never gets it figured out why. He is probably related to Evo, or maybe they just drink the same malt liquer and that has similarily rotted their brains?

I am fine if Evo goes. He makes nearly everything all about him (he definitely thinks he is special and unique), either with his ego or with his words.

see this is what im talking about...

people make up lies, and im the one that gets in trouble for it...

SG, Parker, anyone for that matter, how would you feel if i went around and made up lies about you?

this idiot above, also said he wanted to assault me... i know for certain i would be banned for the same thing, because its happened before....

and when you end a statement saying "he makes everything about him" and start it off with "i know a guy", you look like an idiot...

FYI Jason, ive never been beat up in my life.... ever...

anyways im done with my things for the day, have a bunch of sh!t to do tomorrow, so im going fishing... maybe try it some time....

Remember the guy who photoshopped the pictures of me holding a steelhead with black cocks from his personal stash of homemade photo's?

I remember the time that someone sent me a virus and destroyed my dad's 2700 dollar laptop, with all the pictures of my grandfather and him on it....

I also remember the time someone photoshopped my dad's face into gay porn and posted it all over.. my mom accidently saw it and it made her cry... She still can't understand why I'm treated the way I am, but I just tell her don't worry about it....

Good thing I don't know how to use Photoshop...

Anyways I'm at the river...

Have a good afternoon...

Evo, I challenged you to a non-lethal fight that all members here could come watch. That is definitely not assault YOU GIANT PUSSY PLAYING VICTIM.

Please ban this idiotic loser.

These things do not happen to good hearted normal people, only giant internet cunts like you.

Why are you guys being so mean.????

This so sad.

Jason has a valid point Nate. I mean why would people just do [Bleeeeep!] like that unprovoked? And why are you always playing the victim card? Man up and own your [Bleeeeep!]. It's called growing up.

he has no point...

but he is proving my point each time he posts....

why do rapists rape people unprovoked?

why do people rob people unprovoked?

man up?

here, lets break it down...

4-5 years ago i had no car, no money, people trying to take advantage of that situation, got made fun of on here, banned for literally the same sh!t that people constantly do daily, yet go unpunished...

got a car, that I wanted, got made fun of, told it was a piece of sh!t, got called a sh!tty fisherman because of the car make....

pay the car off, go buy ANOTHER car, still told im a piece of sh!t, broke, dont do nothing, take money from the government, ect....

had zero in the bank 4 years ago, have 6k that i could spend on anything i want, spent 1500 on a down payment 3 weeks ago, built 2 1000+ dollar rifles, buy my mom whatever she wants, Katie gets whatever she wants as well...

cook my mom ribeyes with Argentinian red shrimp and grilled asparagus every weekend, or i buy Tuna steaks and shrimp, or Halibut or whatever she wants...

TV blew up a few months ago, went and bought another 600+ dollar UHD 4K TV...


and yet, yall still talk sh!t....

i was at one time begging for help... i got NONE... i did this on my own with the only help and support from Katie, which she also asked for help and got nothing....

man up... maybe you should listen to your own words....

oh and you want to know something?

throughout my life, ive always spent all my money when i got it, and would go broke... just blow blow blow...

well, after the hell i have experience, i saved up a grand at first, then it went to 2 grand, and i said i would NEVER go below that... that was over 3 years ago that happened... paid 1k for the down payment on the Caddy, still had 2k left...

never went below...

kept saving, got up to 5k, and said i would NEVER go below that, which i did go under it by 200 bucks when i paid for the Jeep 3 weeks ago, but, im above it once again....

basically what i told myself, is that i would NEVER be in the position we were in 5 years ago... and i wont ever be... ever....

man up....

annnnd just as i typed that, someone has hacked our account, and stolen nearly 200 dollars...

wow...

we spend 5+k a month to operate this system....

my mom doesnt make sh!t, we take care of everything else that she cant get for herself.... around 750 a week is spent at the store for food, and whatever else they want... that doesnt include gas, which i have to put in 2 vehicles, and one of them has run on Premium for 3+ years, gets 16 MPG, jeep gets to run on regular, but i get 14MPG out of it... oh well, not complaining....

and i dont know, the internet is a fickle bitch, and things happen, but guess what? this is the first time this has ever happened to me, so where the fvck did you get happen to you all the time?

i hit the possum with a hatchet because my dog and him were going full boar, so basically, you arent man enough to kill one, you just hit them with sticks... not me...something messes with my animals, i will kill it dead on the spot... wether it be a .40 cal parked in a brain pan, a 12 gauge blowing the bowels out into the street, or a hatchet right to the back of the neck...


and im not whining, and no one is stealing my mail, other neighbors yes....

peoples money gets stolen on the internet all the time, yet you want to single me out and act like its only me, and basically are probably sitting there applauding it and rooting it on...

that shows the character you have....

and people wonder why there is so much violence in this world...

(PS dont try to spin that last comment for anything other than what it is, an opinion)

Mental illness runs in circles.

It's really none of my business; How do you earn this money ? If I was in your shoes I sure wouldn't buy 2 rifles ( assemble ) for 2k, instead I would give your Mom and GF a thousand each. I just don't how you could look at yourself in the mirror each day. I know losing your Father at a young age must have been hell, do you think he would approve of your outlook on life...from what you have said about him, he sounds like he was a go getter. You're still fairly young to make him and your Mom proud. Hope a fraction of this sinks in. Not bashing you, just trying to add a spark. Good luck Bud.

P.S I don't see any reason for you to be banned. Most of us including myself have seen and done worse things here.

yes it does...

anyone that treats people the way you do needs to seek serious help....

like i said, ive got a doctor or 9 you could go talk to if you would like....

and if you want to spin that some stupid way of me going to them, ill gladly post my medical records here to show you are full of sh!t...

no HIPPA involved...

you really are a vile piece of sh!t you know that.....

SD you dont know the half of what i went through when my dad died....

and we are going to keep it that way...

no one cares anyways....

i have tons of friends that own businesses, i know some very very wealthy people, and people that know me in person like me... do the math...

i think i know whats up...

like i said, i have 2 cars to put gas into, and they both eat gas...

im putting 20 bucks in every 2 days...

google card skimmers puyallup, and you will see what im talking about...

this has been going on for a while out here....

violence against animals?



jesus you guys stretch it a bit sometimes...

looks like im not the only one this happens to, must be stupid to be wrong...

one charge for 110 dollars came from UHAUL WEB TEAM ASSOC....


https://www.whatsthatcharge.com/U-HAUL-WEB-TEAM-ASSOC-INC-866-277-6855-AZ

I think that this is where you are off track. The rest follows naturally from there.

Fish on...

Todd

and i think you are wrong...


https://q13fox.com/2017/04/10/tacoma-pol...imming-at-atms/


https://www.kitsapsun.com/story/news/201...ands/455050002/


https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/crime/article72038647.html

i can keep going, since you never do the hard parts yourself....

looks like its a fraud/scam coming out of south Korea....

BUT, it wouldnt be hard to mask that and be from NORTH Korea considering they are elite level hackers that make the Russians look stupid.....



https://fraudcreditcards.com/u-haul-web-team-assoc-inc-866-277-6855-az/

looks like it involves the Equifax data breach...

and now its all coming together....



someone is about to get fvcked... and it isnt me....

This was too funny to pass up, I will be here all evening.

If the previous post offends anyone, understand this.

RIP GURU...

I'm stealing this for future use.

i posted that 2 weeks ago...

bob, add me upppppp

Yes you are



Yes you are



Will you stop playing the victim card already? MAN UP

Do you listen to the [Bleeeeep!]!t that comes out of your mouth?

What is a person who is a target of theft?

And why the hell has this site been unsecure for weeks?

There is one thing that tells you that most of these shootings are deep state phsyops. They always use handguns and assault riffles.

if it were real someone would use a short barreled drum fed semi auto shotgun with 4 to 12 shot, the shock and awe would be massive, huge blood bath, few would survive in close quarters there would be parts of people all over the place. Why do you think they used shotguns in trench warfare in WW1 and WW2? you cant escape the spread. Do you know what happens when you shoot someone at 5 yards with 12 shot? It takes limbs off or puts a huge hole in a torso.

Well Nate,you can continue to do what you've always done,and you will continue to get what you've always got. Or you can try something different. The fact that you think some of the people on here are rooting for you to fail just shows how self centered you are. Perhaps this shouldn't be taken so seriously? I'm going to take my own advice and have a great day.























Never did explain why you offered me jigs only to not follow through. Nobody can do any of this for you. As you are the captain of your own ship. You're a bad driver...

Your brain is rotten. Case closed.

The f**k is wrong with you?

Rich has psychological issues he's sorting through.

I'm afraid he's teetering to possibility becoming a mass shooter. Hope I'm wrong, but you never know.

Size of shot doesn't matter at 15'!!!! Cylinder bore all the way to Full Choke, the spread is still going to be no more than 12" in Diameter at 15' away from a target (and probably less), and the shotgun payload basically becomes one large projectile.

BTW, where do you purchase loaded #12 shotgun shells?? Only time I've seen it is in .22 snake shot??? I have a small bag of lead #12 pellets from the 1940's for reloading, but it's a novelty anymore.

Deep State??? Lay off the mushrooms man...