My answer is to control crazy people. It should be a crime to sh!t in the street and now you are locked up with no guns. It should be a crime to do heroin and now you are locked up with no guns.

Most of these mass shooters are on anti-psychotic medication and nobody on any mental medication should have a gun. We should shut down the opiate industry, arrest the Sackler family. Psych meds should only be given to people in mental hospitals. We need a lot more mental hospitals, mainstreaming them did not work. 1/4th of women and 1/8th of men are on these psych meds right now. So it's a big problem. If you are so crazy you need psych meds you shouldn't be allowed in public, on the internet and certainly not have a gun.

Also, I think society can be changed so the media, schools, and government aren't lying to people all the time in order to get them outraged. We could have a freer more truthful society were less people are enslaved. However those in control want a population of mentally defective people so they can use them as servants and tools to oppress the rest of society.

There is a lot of truthiness here.

LOL

"It's a falicy to believe that more armed people in this bar would have changed the ultimate outcome."
Bullchit.
The guy would have never walked into the bar if others had guns.
He chose the soft target intentionally.
That's what they do.
An equal fight is not an option for them.
That's why they check out when confronted.

"A Sheriff deputy was killed in the line of duty as he stepped in to the place to stop the attack. He was armed, gun drawn, and in the ready. And he failed."
You consider his actions failure???

A) If there would have been 3 cops with guns they would have probably succeeded. More is better.
B) He caused the moron to shoot himself.
C) He had to come through the front door instead of being a random in the crowd.

"guns will be in the hands of law abiding citizens who got their guns legally and are one bad day away from becoming a mass murderer."
This is no joke and very true for the many who were raised to be weak and lack identity.

X1000
Society is so sympathetic towards the challenged ones now.
Lock em up.

you cant have firearms in bars in California....

you also cant carry firearms in California while masked to conceal your identity....

high capacity magazines (over 10 rounds) are illegal in California, unless grandfathered in, which is impossible for him to have obtained legally...

now, for the stuff that really matters...

he was a Marine, and machine gunner, which likely means a SAW gunner or door gunner for a chopper...

he either rode around cutting people in half with the SAW, or blowing people apart with a .50 cal out of a helicopter....

imagine what that would do to your mental stability...

he also knew people that went to that bar, because they made fun of him constantly for having a lazy eye...

so you have a guy, that was made fun of all his life, joined the Marines, blew peoples body parts off, came home, got no help, and snapped....

maybe people should check how they treat people, instead of trying to screw other people over, because thats where you get into these situations in the first place...

by people screwing other people over.....

There is no realistic solution, and that's fact.

Gun laws and gun control won't work...if you've got a thriving gun industry pumping out guns by the billions. No president is going to voluntarily shutdown that industry.

Removing guns won't work - as there are an estimated 400+ million firearms in America alone. I'd wager most of those are not registered in any fashion and would just "disappear" if they were asked to be surrendered.

Having everyone armed isn't going to solve anything, as all that would do is dramatically increase the amount of accidental shootings in America, as most are just that stupid.

No one is going to open Pandor's Box and allow doctors and law enforcement to deny a mentally ill person a firearm. As Steeleworldwide has correctly pointed out, it's easier for America to ignore the mental health issue than to fix it. Just like it's easier for American to ignore the heroin and drug issue rather than fix it. Same can be said for the homelessness issue.

Stupid-ass state initiatives and worthless laws are not going to solve the issue either.

If anything, I'd argue that we HAVE passed more and more and more gun laws and these mass shootings have only INCREASED. A little logic would say that passing these laws are leading to more shootings. I can make you a graph that proves this theory.

You and I are not homeless, not on heroin, or are crazy, so not our problem, right? Right. We all will sleep well at night.

I do NOT agree that we are all one bad bottle of MALT LIQUOR away from going full mental. A few on here, for sure, but not everone.



Easy, Evo. Stand down, buddy. Put the MALT LIQUOR and the machine gun down. And whatever you do next, FOR GOD'S SAKE, DO NOT LISTEN TO COUNTRY MUSIC!!!!!!!!!

country music sucks....

Bet you all the Malt Liqueur in Seattle the loser came from a divorced family.

He was taught failure at an early age.

You're on a roll today!

Any more tidbits of wisdom to share today?

So far we have:

Arm everybody
No divorces

PS. No dice on that bet. For one, even Evo knows how to use google and secondly, 206'ers don't drink that much MALT LIQUOR - the stuff on the shelves is probably past it's due date...if there's such a thing for MALT LIQUOR.

They choose gun free zones so they don’t run into law abiding gun owners.

Wisdom

Wisdom is knowing what you know as well as what you dont know.
Wisdom is not not simply knowing what to do, but doing it.
Many people will without invitation offer their "words of wisdom", wise people realize when it is not their time or place to do so.
A wise person does not think less of another who chooses not to follow their advice.
Wisdom is not undermining a person for their weaknesses, but appreciating their strengths differ from yours.

Oh so correct.
Only 2.2% of the mass shootings have occurred in places other than gun free zones.

It's so obvious.

Funny how the "mentally ill" are smart enough to figure that premeditated fact out isn't it?????????
Maybe calling them crazy is simply a cop out and it's truly the blued steel tool's fault.

As fun as it is to squabble with WDFW, he and Brood are right.

Easy targets are easy targets.

Why is it that you never see any of these mass shootings in a Cop bar? Or the Police station?

I have a conealed weapons permit. I own legal, registered guns. I have taken more gun classes than most here. Yet, I can not bring a firearm in to my place of employment, as it's illegal. I'm fooked if there's a mass shooting in my building - or at least have no way to protect myself other than to run, hide, and fight for my life with my hands and whatever else I can fashion in to a weapon.

I'd carry now, or at least have a firearm in my work bag, if I could. I do feel like I work in an easy, soft-target environment where young people have been shown to snap have done mass shootings.

Guaranteed a shooter would think twice before entering a building where people have the potential to be armed.

Never wrestle with a pig.

You get chit all over yourself and the pig enjoys it.

or a gun show...

That's more of a 360'er thing.



Been a long time since I've been the Puyallup Gun Show, but is one allowed to carry a loaded firearm in to that event?

I thought you could carry...but firearms has to be checked in and unloaded/locked first.

Maybe that was just bringing in firearms to sell. Never carried at the show, so I honestly do not know.

But yeah, that DOES seem like an ill-advised place to begin your short-lived career as a mass shooter.

Denial is a 206er thing.

Is there such a thing as a cop bar???

Yes. Much like the gay bar the 360's hang out in. In denial, of course.

It's a bar. Where the local cops hang out in.

when i went to the fair last year, i asked the police there if it was legal to carry a pistol on fair grounds, they said no...

i then brought up the fact that they have gun shows, and they said yeah, its dumb, we know...

so basically what i get, is that no, you arent allowed to.....

Interesting.

I think I've seen that in the movies.
AND
I've heard they offer to push your stool in as well.

No pistols allowed of course.